Article: Who is Collecting Data from Your Car?

To become truely free and information-secure in your own car, you would have to start with a used car frame and body. Strip it all down to the bare metal, and then build everything back from scratch, using parts that you purchased or built yourself. With no hidden sensors, no hidden computers nor microphones nor cameras, all you need is some 1970’s technology. You can find a rebuilt carbuerated engine with no computer required to run it. If the law requires a back up camera, you can buy a small camera on Amazon for $25, and install the display-only (no tablet) in to the dash yourself. I wouldn’t mind cranking the windows up and down manually and having strictly mechanical door locks if I got my privacy back.

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Why did you lease a brand-new 2024 Toyota Corolla then?

  1. Having sex in a car is not a crime

  2. Saying it’s ok to give up your right to privacy because you don’t plan on committing any crime (“I don’t do anything bad anyway”) is plain giving up and abiding by the manufacturing of consent

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For those who are familiar with boolean logic, the word “nor” means not one thing and separate from that, not the other thing either. So not having sex in the car and not commiting a crime using the car are unrelated things, the sex not being a crime. I thought I would bring that up also since it seemed to be a topic of interest earlier in the thread.

And it is also a weak statement to say that a person doesn’t mind being spied upon because they don’t plan to break the law anyway. But we’re fortunate to have one truely free hardware/software phone in the world that respects privacy. Until Purism makes a privacy respecting car, we might just as well accept the fact that there is no privacy in your own car. That’s not right. But it is how things are. So why worry about it when you can’t fix it?

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You are wrong - at least in some countries and situations. For example you are homosexual and have sex with same sex partners. What’s crime does not depend on logic.

I am not speaking about SteveRs case, but in general.

Because it will get much faster much worse when nobody cares about. And because if the right person see a market for privacy respecting cars, that person may create a start up to build such cars.

Btw:
When you build up a car from zero (just the frame), you also can build in privacy respecting computer-hardware (like L5 as board-tablet-replacement). You even can install privacy respecting AI to have all the functions that never uploads data.
The question is less “what features you have”, but more “how they’re implemented”.

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You already proposed a solution to your own question, so ignoring it in favour of waiting for Purism to create a privacy-respecting car denies your responsibility to proactively respect your values.

Lol. Pretty sure that getting caught having sex in a car in a public place would result in arrest almost anywhere, for anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Now, if the car was parked in a closed garage, you would probably be safe getting your freak on…

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In Germany it’s allowed (even completely in the public space outside of the car), as long as you choose a place where people usually would not recognize it. Even if you are caught, everything is fine. The problem starts when you do it at a place where you will be sure to be caught.

But arrest? No, you have to pay money up to 1000€ (in worst case) - depends on the real szenario. I think there are a lot of countries that handle it similar, but hardly to know without researching about.

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Doctor Who (15th Doctor) Episode 5 “Dot and Bubble” was hilarious in this regard.

“Forward. Turn Left.”

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