Current state of Librem 5 usability?

Basically you can follow what Luca Weiss submits to the Linux kernel mailing list, as he works for Fairphone on mainline Linux.

You can also follow postmarketOS, e.g. on the device page, or look through merge request on postmarketOS’s gitlab.

Also Mobian has announced they are going to support the FP4 eventually. I am pretty sure it will show up on this wiki page once Mobian will support it.

Assuming I won’t stop doing what I’ve been doing since mid 2020, you might also find out about Fairphone 4 Linux progress in my weekly updates.

BTW: I wrote this on a Librem 5 docked to an HP Elite X3 Lap Dock - while it’s still a bit lackluster here and there (manual camera only, battery life), it’s definitely quite nice in convergence mode.

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Porting the FP4 to postmarketOS Linux has barely started, and the FP4 will use a Linux kernel (as opposed to an Android kernel with libhybris inside. /e/ Solutions sells FP4 with /e/ (an AOSP derivative) preinstalled.

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_4_(fairphone-fp4)



For the next Librem 5, see: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#71-what-will-be-the-changes-in-the-fir-batch-and-should-i-wait-for-it
@nicole.faerber also said that it is planning on releasing a tablet which will probably be based on the i.MX 8M Quad (like the Librem 5).

  • Choose a desktop Linux application and work on making its interface adaptive so it works on mobile devices. It it uses Qt, add Kirigami classes. If it uses GTK, work on adding libhandy and/or libadwaita classes.

  • Get involved in one of mobile projects, such as Phosh, KDE Plasma Mobile, UBports, Mobian, postmarketOS, etc. There a whole bunch of mobile applications that need work.

  • Buy the PinePhone, which is currently shipping and only costs $150/$200, so that you can help test/debug/develop mobile Linux.

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I doubt the general user cares or knows much about security patches or OS version and would throw away the phone because of that.

Given a choice between a partially functioning OS and one that functions fine without updates…guess which one most are likely to choose. I am fine waiting with an outdated OS until linux is working well enough to use it. It is the modularity and repairability that I am after. When the time comes, the switch shouldn’t be that big of a deal, especially since data can be easily exported/important with a removable card.

… until the phone gets pwned.

I think the way it will work is that the majority of people who are running vulnerable phones will get away with it and a small minority will end up paying far more than the cost of junking the phone. So people are prepared to take the risk of being in the latter category.

A business may not be prepared to take that risk because there can be consequences for such negligence or even recklessness that go well beyond one phone.

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Thanks, that worked! I can even make calls and receive video. The camera of the L5 is not recognized by signal, but thats not important in my case.

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Current state of Librem 5 usability?

I would say it is getting better all the time. But there are many things which have to get better. 4G, screen-off-time, camera, gps, only to name a few.

But I do not regret buying the Librem5.

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I like this small update to phosh:


Sometimes it’s the little things. Nice work, team!
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There’s been a few threads that got close (I really appreciate this thread as being the closest I’ve found so far) but I’d be interested in a “daily use” review that wasnt based around leaving the device on a charger.

Example of what I’d like to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__F1jAcCLFo (just picked one, but it’s from TheUnlockr and shows a day of using devices around town).

This would be really valuable IMO, most “reviews” are based from usage at home, near a charger and talk more about the Linux side of things rather than the “phone” capabilities - I don’t have a Librem5 but as a long-term potential buyer this content would help inform my decision (besides considering stock viabilty).

This probably wont happen due to the limited number of devices out in the wild (as well as taking into account the user base) but one can dream!

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@irvinewade Fascinating … (intoned in a Star Trek/ Mr. Spock-like sort of way with 1 eyebrow raised) Can you elaborate or point me in a direction where I can find out more on this approach?

Sadly, not at the moment because, and someone correct me if I am wrong, the mail client on the Librem 5 does not (yet?) support LDAP.

But the above is the approach that I have tested with Thunderbird (working LDAP client support) and an iPhone (adequately working LDAP client support). So, longer term, it is what I would like to use with the Librem 5.

If your question is more general than the Librem 5 then slapd is the server package that you will need to install. (Package sponsored by Will Smith? :rofl:) NB: There is the assumption that you have a suitable server to install this on.

I’ve imported all contacts into the LDAP server from .ldif format and you may need some data preparation and cleansing before that will work (I definitely did, but it’s probably a good thing to do anyway, right?).

And just to round this one out … due to the absence of LDAP client support in the Librem 5, I texthacked the .ldif file into a .vcf file and loaded that into the Librem 5 using the supplied Goodies package. So no synch or consistency for now.

Wait, there’s no ldap client in pureos?

Maybe. Maybe not.

I meant specifically: the mail client that I am using, Geary, does not contain support for being an LDAP client. Perhaps if you use a different mail client, that problem will go away (but you then might get a different problem i.e. whole mail client not sufficiently adaptive). So Geary works very nicely on the small screen but you live with its limitations e.g. no POP and, I am claiming without checking, no LDAP.

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Ok, that makes more sense.

Anyone try using GSConnect/KDEConnect to share contacts (and other stuff)?

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For matrix, nheko works well with end to end encryption.

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To sync contacts, calendars, notes, reminders, files etc, I use Nextcloud, which is natively supported by gnome (using carddav and caldav) and the desktop client to sync files. It beats every iCloud.

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“You can use sshfs 1, so your phone’s folder will appear on you PC as a local folder, and vice versa.”

Could someone walk me through setting this up - or directing me to said info. As if I’m a 3 yr old or the dumbest person on earth.

I’m all in - Librem 14 and a 5. I have a computer science degree from a zillion years ago and feel like a dinosaur who can’t seem to accomplish anything. But I really wanted to support this project.

Finally rescued my music from iTunes. Threw it in Dropbox, downloaded dropbox onto the 14. Can’t for the life of me figure out how to get the files onto the phone. After failing to figure out how to get the laptop and phone to see each other, I even tried to install dropbox on the phone (like I did on the laptop). I can’t get that to work. If I could just one shared file as you suggest, this would solve things for me. Any help appreciated. Sorry if i sound stupid. I feel stupid!!

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Check out the tutorials in the community wiki: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Tips-&-Tricks#tutorials

  • ssh
  • sftp
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TYSM. I’ll start there.