why do you want to run Windows on a Librem? If it is to run some specific software that only exists on windows, could you not instead run Windows in a virtual environment?
I played around with Wine a few years back and never really got it to work properly, but I have seen machines running the commercial CrossOver which seemed to be quite flawless.
and frankly, what’s the point of using a Purism laptop with a proprietary OS?
Actually, I’d like to support your project by buying Librem laptops for our company, but (most) of them will run Windows7 no matter what. That is why these questions make sense.
Also, disabled IME is a great +.
Does anyone have experience of running Win7 on the Librem13/15 laptops?
@farercyte try a Google search for the Hardware-ID of the devices you still need drivers for. You’ll get a lot of scam results but usually also a few that are useful.
+1 for Windows ‘support’. I dual boot Linux / Windows, this isn’t negotiable for me and lots of people. But want to support this project. And so cant buy Librem hardware…
Purism aims to offer high-quality privacy, security, and freedom focused computers and software. (see https://puri.sm/why-purism/)
The quality of Windows OS is unverifiable, as it is closed source.
Windows has a history of repeated blatant privacy invasion on its users.
The multitude of existing malware does not give good impression of Windows security
Microsoft utilized vendor lock-in practices in the past, and it still affects users, who say they run Windows and not running it is not negotiable.
So, Windows fails in all four categories: quality, privacy, security and freedom. Devoting resources to support Windows would be an effort not in support of Purism goals.
This is problem people have with freedom, and “freedom to the extend I like”. If I were to use Librem laptops for genocide running Windows 10, according to freedom I should be able to do so.
I see your point about dedicating resources, that’s why I think Purism should focus on providing HW+FW primarily, and drivers at the second priority, linux OS only as third… On the other hand, I too want Librems to succeed, and for that…dualbooting Windows opens a lot of doors, and money.
Anyone got any updates if Windows 10 is fully functional?
I have a relative who I was telling about my purchase and they liked the idea of hardware switches but they want to use Windows 10 not Linux.
Personally I need to run Windows 10 for my professional work, but want to run Linux privately. I believe a lot of people are in the same boat, wanting privacy etc for their personal selves, but out of necessity allowing less of it for their professional selves.
Why isn’t Purism hardware a good use case for anyone who must run Windows? Intel’s ME is still disabled or reduced in functionality, right? Hardware kill-switches are still functional, right? Seems like a no brainer for someone who must use Windows for work-related reasons.
I wouldn’t expect Purism to support Windows in any form, but it seems obvious to me why some people might want to run Windows on a Purism Librem instead of a Lenovo.
SeaBIOS works through Windows 7, according to its wiki page, so as long as you know you’ll never need to update the OS version to one that requires UEFI, you should be fine.
I’ve had mine for almost a month now, and I almost like it more every day. My last computers were all in the MacBook family, and I thought I was going to be downgrading for a good cause. I would honestly say, if their hinge holds up over time, they’ve made a better computer than Apple. One that I like better, anyway.
Seems to be iterated here already but less we all forget, freedom means I can do whatever I want with my Librem, including running windows all over its beautiful self. Long live Purism.
Additionally just 2 cents: Running 7 Windows Computers + 1 Librem with PureOS i’ve got to admit, if i wouldn’t have been finally fed up with using Windows, the Librem i’m currently typing at would be a perfect hardware platform for continued usage of Windows or whatever system. Why? Beside all the other Pros just because of the hardware killswitches together with the nice slim, sleek finish.
Happy with PureOS now. But if i wouldn’t have been totally fed up, i’d have tried installing Windows. Beside that Purism is a small company and it’s good that they try to keep focused on their path.
Great point. To expound a little on my position let me just add this:
The Librem as a laptop even if you don’t want to use Linux makes a ton of sense. What other laptop these days has all that the Librem has and is user serviceable? What other slim laptop do you know of with a user replaceable battery?
Used to be Thinkpads but they’ve been gouged and are a shell of what they use to be.
extracted and then ran the setup.exe, this didn’t seem to give the right behavior…
went into the device manager, selected the ps2 compatible mouse
right click -> update driver
browse computer > let me pick > ps/2 > have disk > browse > navigate to driver extract directory > ETDSMBus.inf
from here I installed, accepted the warnings, then it prompted for a reboot. Once I rebooted, my touchpad now has two finger right click, and scroll gestures, I’m not sure what else. Also, if I go into the mouse settings, I now see the Elan tab settings.
Awesome, thank you!
I hope others will follow and keep posting their advice. It’s nice to see someone actually being constructive and helpful, instead of just typing away their philosophy.