Agreed. Extremely difficult. Learning what “ssh and scp is over a Terminal or Shell” is very daunting. But to ask here, how to do all that can be a cardinal sin.
You probably know more about LanShare than I, so please see my reply to OP and correct me if I am wrong.
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Have you considered LanShare?
By the sounds of it, there is a program that will transfer anything across Windows to most Linux spin-offs. I use it all the time to go between Windows and PureOS on another Dtop.
It is called “LanShare”. Available at GitHub.
About LanShare:
LAN Share is a cross platform local area network file transfer application, built using Qt GUI framework. It can be used to transfer a whole folder, one or more files, large or small immediatelly without any additional configuration.
CAVEAT: I don’t know if it will work on PureOS/L5. But does on PureOS Dtop <> Windows Dtop.
For me, I installed it on two machines, no programming experience necessary.
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EDIT - ADDENDUM:
I tried to install it but it won’t due to:
“error processing archive ./lanshare_1.2.1-1_amd64.deb (–install):
package architecture (amd64) does not match system (arm64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
./lanshare_1.2.1-1_amd64.deb”
Perhaps a more knowledgeable person can figure it out. I’m a noob when it comes to GitHub & digital phones, it’s another unexplored planet to me.
Sorry,
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Exactly as stated. You are trying to install a package that is built for an Intel or AMD CPU whereas the phone has an ARM CPU. So you need to ask “Lanshare” whether they offer a build for the ARM architecture or see whether you can already see that option on their web site.
Regarding your addendum: The github you linked to only provides packages for the Intel/AMD processors and not ARM. The L5 is an ARM-based device. To install LANShare you will need to follow the compiling instructions on their github page.
I’ve never used LANShare.
If I haven’t bothered to create a SMB share (with Samba), I use sftp (interactive ssh-based file transfer protocol) or ssh/scp (command line or script). One can even browse with sftp in browsers like firefox.
I’ve no plans to take on the task of learning GitHubs way of making programs available. Compiling? No idea how or need to learn how.
I do use it between two desktops, Pureos on one, Win 7 on the other. No need to learn linux codes or the stuff you were kind enough to show me. The PureOS is on a Z400 w/ CPU Intel Xeon 3500 & 3600 Series and it works. C’est la vie Mayhaps the L5 is particular about that too.
Thanks
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That’s all Greek to me. LanShare you don’t need to do anything but set install the program, and away ya go.
Lanshare is strictly filedata transfers. It’s not like any remote control, such as TightVNC. I use it much like TeamViewer without passing through TVs $erver$.
Well, as it stands today, that project simply does not offer a build for ARM and therefore it simply isn’t an option for any phone (unless a customer is willing and able to build from source). It also means that it simply isn’t an option on a Raspberry Pi - and, since they would wish to test the build for ARM on something, a Raspberry Pi may be a more credible option.
At the current time they are only providing two builds - one for Windows on typical desktop/laptop and one for Debian-family Linux on typical desktop/laptop.
However I am an optimist. Maybe if users are asking the LanShare project about a build for ARM, they might oblige. If no one asks then it is unlikely to appear by magic. Well, anyway, I am a firm believer in asking. The worst that can happen is that they say “no”.
Maybe an option for you: KDE Connect. It’s not over USB, but using home network (you also can setup public network in a more complicated way). The UI is optimized for mobile Linux since they integrate it for Plasma Mobile.
It does not only allow to share files between L5 and Linux PC, but also with Windows, iOS and Android - if you still have those devices in use. Furthermore you have other options like remote control media, sharing clip board entry and some more.
File sharing works just fine. Other functionality too, but by far not all (yet).
I didn’t know what the L5 had because it’s blank. But I know it now. That aside, I didn’t knwo the difference between ARM and AMD(?). What prompted me to try to install it was the filename DOT .DEB (Debian?).
And I’m the pessimist. That’s a optimist with experience.
Going to check out LCK’s suggestion (below) as it looks promising and will do what I need.
many thanks Irvine
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edit was to fix a poorly typed reply. No more wine. Ooops Cops are here - gotta run - bye
Just what I was hoping for. I read the install and some wiki. Looks a bit daunting so I’ll save it for Thursday. I’ll post back how it goes - if I live
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I could use SSH/SCP, but I find that Warpinator works on the L5 and is easy to use. Available as flatpak for L5 and desktop Linux. I got the desktop version from the Linux Mint repository using Gnome Software.
As an alternative to LANshare, if you want a graphical program for transferring files over the network, probably one of the more standard ones is filezilla. It’s FOSS and is most likely in the PureOS repo (so it’s just an “apt install filezilla” away). Furthermore there are filezilla binaries for Windows. [Aside: If you do install it on Windows, download it from the filezilla website ( https://filezilla-project.org/ ) since the download.com version is known to have adware in it. The Debian version is, of course, free from adware.]
I had a quick look at the source and LANshare appears to transfer the files without encryption. On your home LAN that’s probably OK … but, in general, it’s why most people prefer to use ssh/scp or programs that leverage ssh such as sftp or can do so (e.g. rsync). These days (since Windows 10?) Windows comes with sftp, ssh, and scp.
I understand your trepidation (~s “That’s all Greek to me.”) with using non-GUI methods. It’s fine. But I will say that “knowledge is power”. There are a handful of obtuse-looking tools that are well worth learning if you will be using Linux/Unix/BSD over the long term (e.g. > 3 years).
What is meant by “binaries”? I know what it means, but didn’t know how it applies to this kind of program.
I have a bit of reading to do before deciding.
I meant installable executable programs (in Windows, an .exe or something that will install an .exe). This is distinguished from the “source code” which would need to be complied to create the executable program.
Aside: Sometimes you end with ~s and other times it’s ~f.
Yes. The S and F keys are one key apart (d). I’m very bad at typing and before submitting, I go back and out of 30 words lets say, I let spellchecker help me fix 25 mistakes, or so it goes.
The one thing spellchecker doesn’t check is my ~s. You see, that thing behind the ‘s’ (~) is my cape ~s™. So I often miss that.
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Thanks for this link. They don’t have any install instructions or setup docs. Not even in the Dve sectiosn.
Regardless, I’d have to buy a new desktop so I can get Windows 120,m so I can install (not know how), so it will “sync data”. read the stuff it can do. But not interested in buying another windoze version right no. Have absolutely no need to help keep Microsoft and Dell/HP in business when I rarely until now, need either.
Might be a kinky thing to have between systems though.
Thanks again
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As I spent the most of two days looking for a suitable program, all support AMD.
As if ARM is not a well supported chip.
after trial and errors, the fastest way to shuttle files between the L5 and any other LAN device is to move them back and forth using a USB stick. Much faster, and safer.
And it only takes 3 tries to get the USB inserted
Arguably, the fastest way, and potentially more secure way, is to set up ssh so you can then use sftp to simply click and drag, or copy and paste, from one device to others over the LAN (assuming you trust the LAN).
For example, here’s what my Files app looks like. After setting up ssh, I saved the IP of my Raspberry Pi as a bookmark in the Files app (Nemo package). When I click on the bookmark, I’m presented with a login screen so I can mount it, then move files from one machine to the other, wirelessly.
I’ve saved all my laptops, RPi, and Librem 5 on all my devices as bookmarked IP addresses, so as long as they’re powered on, I can quickly log in from any of them to transfer files. (On the L5, I’ve only added the RPi so far.)
If you are transferring files between devices on the same LAN, then I would recommend https://snapdrop.net/
To transfer files they just need to be on the same LAN and then both need to visit the website. Each device will be assigned a name and you will be able to see the name of the device you want to send.
I haven’t read the full thread, but if there are large amounts of data I cannot speak to any file size limits or anything like that. I have only used it for a few files of less than 25 MB or so.