Introducing the Liberty Phone

[veleno]

Thank you so much for your post!!!
As I written, if I see Geary working well, I’ll buy Librem One service and I’ll create a new email leaving Gmail!
So I just want test Geary with Gmail

[Ick]

I did not say special characters aren’t allowed in general. In fact I don’t know if Geary supports all, a few or none. I just know that special characters can cause such problems. That doesn’t mean all special characters are unsupported, but maybe some specific ones.

[nerd7473]

What case is that?

[FranklyFlawless]

My take on my new L5

regarding case, i bought bumper on Amazon that suits great! I prefer bumper instead of case because the first one protects L5 from drops and crashes without overheating it as a cover! It’s open along the sides so I can use every button. here the link to this bumper: https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B0BV3G45TB?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title [IMG_9850] [IMG_9849] [IMG_9848] [IMG_9851] [IMG_9852] [IMG_9853]

[veleno]

I modified my google password avoiding special characters and it’s working now!!
Thank you so much, Ick!!

[irvinewade]

There are some legitimate reasons to restrict what characters can be used in a password but on the other hand any such restriction weakens the password against a brute force attack.

Honestly, for a password that is only entered once and thereafter securely stored (such as applies to Geary on the Librem 5), you might as well choose a longer password in order to compensate for the loss of special characters. However I understand that the password may be being used on more than one device. But then I don’t understand why anyone would use gmail at all.

Many servers will mitigate against brute force attacks anyway by placing restrictions on how many guesses you can have.

[FranklyFlawless]

@irvinewade

But then I don’t understand why anyone would use gmail at all.

It is one of the few whitelisted webmail providers for acquiring Tor bridge relay addresses, the other being Riseup:

BRIDGES | Tor Project | Tor Browser Manual

GETTING BRIDGE ADDRESSES

Because bridge addresses are not public, you will need to request them yourself. You have a few options:

• Email bridges@torproject.org from a Gmail, or Riseup email address

[carlosgonz]

Add sentence to Librem 5 Liberty Box and Manual:
Developed, Designed and Manufactured in-house by Purism.

[carlosgonz]

Somebody know if francois.techene still working for Purism?

[FranklyFlawless]

@francois-techene logged into Discourse two days ago.

[VClaw]

is the Liberty phone out yet? I bought used Librem 5 and Librem 5USA. usa one have a button physical button feedback but worse wifi signal reception somehow.

[FranklyFlawless]

Purism– Liberty Phone

Liberty Phone – Purism

[Dlonk]

@VClaw

is the Liberty phone out yet?

Yes I am using a 128GB storage, 4 GB ram device, and I have been using it since fall 2023. As with any Purism product, shipping occurs when the product is ready and not instantaneously. I purchased one of these Liberty Phones in fall 2023 and it shipped to me in about 2 months, but then I purchased a second one in the spring of 2024 and it shipped after something like 5 or 6 months. I do not know the reason for the difference, but I assume the process of assembling within the USA is probably more involved and more human than assembling overseas.

Edit:
My reason for purchasing a second one was not any issue or problem with the device, but rather that I wanted a backup because the device appeared too enjoyable, and so I assumed that the new world order would destroy Purism for making them – and create a future where these were no longer available. This is quite possibly an absurdist/extremist opinion on my part, and I know that, so another way to look at the situation is that maybe I was just throwing money at Purism to support them.

Edit 2:
Fixed a typo that suggested I bought my second one in spring 2023, which was not correct, and I meant to describe this as spring 2024

[VClaw]

Thanks for the input. I bought the 5, and 5usa on eBay, so shipped within a week. I can’t handle the half year time frame. Ha. I guess I will wait for the used ones. Or maybe, I heard purism does plan to have parts(ram, …) to upgrade, I think I saw it somewhere in the purism forum.

[FranklyFlawless]

Will the Librem 5 be upgraded to the specs of the Liberty Phone at some point?

Yes, L5/Liberty spec upgrades and standalone mainboards are coming, but I cannot provide a date at this time. Certain compatibility restrictions may apply, based on the chassis or PCB version; Purism will provide documentation on how to determine compatibility. Legacy models will still be supported in the form of RMA, out-of-warranty repair, or PureOS updates. Legacy models would likely be featured in an attractive sale until they are out of stock.

[Dlonk]

@VClaw

I can’t handle the half year time frame.

Looking back at the exact records, what I see is that:

• It was only 1.5 month, not 2 months, before my Fall 2023 order shipped
• My Spring 2024 order was labeled Backordered in the order, whereas the Fall 2023 order was not, and it was 5 months (not 6 months) before I received my email that it shipped

So, if you cannot handle the 5 month time frame, you can review before placing an order whether it is labeled as Backordered. Apparently, now that I look back at it, this was likely the difference in my case.

For what it’s worth, because the second order was trying to throw money at Purism to support them, I included some of the extras like a USB-C dock. That may have slowed down the order. If you don’t include the extras, and don’t see the Backordered notice on the store, it’s possible you might get the much faster shipping time.

I just figured I would mention these specifics in case it helps you know what to expect.

EDIT:
After further review, the 1.5 month lag time before my first order shipped was artificially inflated. At the time, I emailed Purism support and asked them to put my order on hold and not ship it for about 2 weeks while I went on vacation. So, again, if it doesn’t say Backordered when you make your purchase, I think it’s possible you might see a pretty good time-to-ship. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t spreading inaccurate information here.

[VClaw]

I checked the Purism site, liberty phone is backordered. I will contact them to see. Thanks