You are actually having right. And, as side note, I need to admit that I like this well thought out design: https://innlead.shop/wp-content/uploads/images/Edge/ad01.webp. Even HDMI port isn’t of micro type (no need for use of some extra adapter there).
At the time of my thoughts/posts related to Lenovo ThinkVision M14 (latest generation M14t Gen 2 looks to be very sweet product: https://youtu.be/gDNWE3r5ViQ
) I didn’t realize that there is implemented existence of power (up to 65W PD while consumes only up to 7.5W on its own) pass-through via its two USB3.1 Type-C DP1.2 Alternate Mode ports. Anyway I’m quite sure now that I’ve finally understood above “put together” setup and at the same time important contribution. At that time I was only familiar that Asus approaches/implementations (in general, just for some kind of comparison, more or less correlated to my earlier, above posted thoughts) to DisplayPort over USB-C differ (here is linked professionally made review of the one of their 4K-IPS USB-C DP1.4, capable to precisely deliver 8-Bit color depth to its surface, portable monitor) within their up to 17.9 inch ZenScreen and ProArt displays and therefore I couldn’t follow, not for real, although ThinkVision M14 and Librem 5 setup clearly (without add-on peripherals) presented.
Now, @ookhoi, if you attach SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.1 Gen 1) USB Type-C™ male connector of externally/directly powered Delock 64062 hub (that you presented here earlier) to the one side of ThinkVision M14 USB-C DP1.2 female port and Librem 5 directly to the second (while power pass-through connected with each other) USB-C DP1.2 female port would your Librem 5, besides hopefully being able to be charged from this (or any other) Dock/Hub and present its content on here correlated 14-inch screen, be able to get/exchange there connected data (including mouse/keyboard) with Delock 64062?
I’m expecting (as based on my question) that M14 display will consume up to 7.5W (5V/1.5A) and therefore Librem 5 should get almost 7.5W of power as well.
Power supply −> Hub USB-C PD port … Hub USB-C male connector −> M14 right USB-C DP1.2 port (Switch-On might be tested now) … M14 left USB-C DP1.2 port −> Librem 5.
EDIT: Otherwise (if above proposal doesn’t work with ThinkVision M14) you’d be in need to do another test/proof of adequate docking station with built-in DP1.4 output/port (for example: https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005005926580411.html
) where you’d need to use bi-directional USB-C to DisplayPort 1.4 cable (https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005006677028979.html
) on one connection side of ThinkVision M14 and connect second power supply to the other USB-C DP1.2 port, to the opposite here related monitor connection side.
My impression on L5 after some full days of use of it is that it is not (yet … hopefully) a phone that I would recommand to non tech|linux|dev|something person that want to use it as a second phone (it can be the main phone … for me it is the only phone …)
Reasons why:
- Upgrades are still failing, from time to time from store (so instead of trying on and on there you can go to the terminal)
- Battery life is very low (I added zram, swap, reflash it … it will lose @40% over night, in suspend mode after 1 minute) [this bothers me]
- It gets warm very fast (after few minutes of use → 52+ C) [this bothers me] (yes … I saw that we can change the battery maybe this will fix the problem BUT I’m from EU not USA so in order to buy another battery I need to buy another phone … and why not delivered with a good battery from first time … assuming the problem is the battery)
- it freeze/block from time to time (e.g.: today I had a call, resposed to it and just close the display after … when I wanted to open it … it was stuck on that call panel - the call was ended but I wasn’t able to close the panel)
- its heavy (for a standard user … for me … its ok … I have only 2 problems with it [check above])
- on charging it gets, again, very warm
I will buy one more (at least - for my wife first) if these 2 problems that bothers me will be fixed (hopefully they will)
In my experience, it stays reasonably cool charging it while powered off.
I just opened it to see where it is … at 50C when charging (just for charging, screen off, auto suspend … for me looks not good at all … [but not powered off])
I can’t keep it powered off as it is my only phone so even if charging I still need to receive calls, if any
The curve for charging from 20% to 80% is high and battery is big capacity so it normal that will high temp. Please use original charger and cable, also do not share with others device original L5 charger equipment.
DRAM issues still affects S2RAM for energy save. Also Byzantium still not optimized for L5, so thats the reason why every interaction with posh creates high CPU spikes, creating more temperature and battery drain.
Wait for Gnu Crimson and most importantly Gnu Dawn.
Purism
This is a known problem. I’ve had it myself, intermittently. I’m confident that this will eventually get fixed.
Yes, this is an unfortunate aspect for non-technical users. The GUI update app sometimes doesn’t work whereas the “same” commands at the shell work fine. I usually update from shell anyway, so not a drama for me personally.
In some respects Purism would be better to link the GUI update icon to a two line shell script until the GUI update app actually works reliably.
myself as well … this is not a problem for me at all but for a non tech user it will be frustrating
My only problems I’m having is battery drain very fast and that it gets warm but I’ll wait until Crimson or even Dawn as @carlosgonz suggested
Hopefully Crimson will come at some point this year as I saw discussions about it from beggining of 2023
Crimson is no magic for everything. I just want to prevent disappointment, that’s why I wrote this.
Hopefully Dawn will be then ( joking ? )
What makes Crimson so cool is not the Librem 5 specific stuff. The software developers for not L5 specific related stuff are continuing developing mobile software and all that stuff will come to Crimson as well. So for example Phosh is already 6(?) versions ahead and we will get it. Also the file manager has improvements we will get on Crimson (better touch screen support as far as I know) and so on. Also if Mobian makes something upstream to Debian, we will get this, too.
Battery uptime is a huge amount of work that gets bigger as more optimized things are. The easiest things are done and any further improvement will need more and more time. I don’t expect much here and see this as very long time task. Especially the idle state of OS as well as applications need much work.