Why does the Librem 5 cost so much more than the Pinephone?

You can also get her L5 and keep that phone as mp3 player and camera :slight_smile:

sounds like your girlfriend has someone she can listen to.

Then you asked her sweetly, "So when you need to use Vim and GHC, you are going to want to use my phone?”

She nodded glumly.

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If she ever asked me to use my phone to run vim, I would drop down on my knees and propose to her on the spot!

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Then you asked her sweetly, “So when you need to communicate with someone privately, without being surveilled by X Corporation or Y government, you are going to want to use my phone?”

She nodded glumly.

:slight_smile:

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The iPhone 4, which introduced the “Retina Display,” had a pixel density of 326 pixels per inch. I have enjoyed crisp, pixel free text since 2010. The Librem 5 will have 282. A slight step back, but hopefully still high enough to hide pixelation. The iPhone 3 had 163, so at least it will still be better than that.

Linux had high DPI capability years before the retina display (such as KDE), but there where some applications that did not. Maybe this will give some Linux applications time to update, if they have not already.

Hopefully our support for Librem 5 version 1 means that there will be a better version 2 in the future.

In another thread, someone posted a video that mentions that the screen will be like the Nintendo Switch, and that device has a good screen. This part of the discussion starts at 10:40 into the video:

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Every time I hear a principal getting compromised, the school board fires him.

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While Librem 5’s specs are v̶e̶r̶y low end specs.

I added an FAQ question to explain this:
1.7. Why does the Librem 5 cost so much compared to the PinePhone?

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also it’s ‘than the Pinephone’ instead of ‘then the Pinephone’ for the title.

I changed the title of this forum thread to fix that.

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Techietalk aside , if you’ve ever owned a recent(PostmarketOS like mine) then you’d know why it costs less than an L5. It’s cheap quality and unless you’re a developer/programmer/etc it’s like a plastic toy. Low grade cameras etc and every bimonthly edition come loaded with a very beta OS version. Furthest cheap thing from a daily driver. To me was a waste of money. i traded mine to a electronic wizard friend for an older panasonic toughbook with Mint 20 installed. I think I got the better end of the trade. Like comparing a pedal car to a camaro. What’s on the menu at texas Roadhouse makes more sense to discus

I would probably be a little more generous when describing the build quality of my Pinephone, but if the videos everyone is sharing are anything to go by, the Librem 5 is going to have a significantly better user experience from its more powerful hardware. For one thing, Firefox takes a split second to load in some videos of the Librem 5, while it takes several seconds of displaying a blank screen before it loads on a Pinephone.

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Sorry I was so mean in my assessment. I’m getting so darn anxious about getting my Librem 5 real soon I hope!

Pine64 understood well what you wrote :hugs:. Link to “Replacing the main PCB in a PinePhone” is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbMoZ_zuZs

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The reason to buy the PinePhone is the ability to tinker with its hardware and easily fix it, as shown in that video.

I hope that Purism will sell parts for the Librem 5 just like PINE64 does for the PinePhone. SHIFT made upgradeable phones, and I would like to see Purism do the same, by making it possible to put Fir’s PCB into an Evergreen body.

However, I also want Purism to focus on making Fir thinner and lighter, and to do that, Fir can’t be backward compatible. Given that the i.MX 8M Plus isn’t a good chip for convergence and gaming, maybe Purism should split the Librem 5 into two lines in the future. One model would be like Evergreen, but with 4GB RAM and 256GB storage, which focuses on people who want convergence, two M.2 cards, and a better GPU. The other would be a model with the i.MX 8M Plus that has a soldered down cellular baseband and WiFi/BT, so it has the dimensions and weight of a normal smartphone. It wouldn’t provide convergence or smart card, but it would be more energy efficient and only cost $400 in order to aim for the mass market.

Offering a mid-priced phone with better battery life and normal dimensions and weight would answer many of the criticisms that I’m sure that Evergreen is going to receive. Of course, being able to offer two phone models means Purism will need to have a lot more phone orders per year. Oh well, we can dream.

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Hi…in my case things were working out in a good way for first use. However, I saw the dated chipset made the CPU maximize with straightforward applications being opened. Kind of irritating to need to delay and trust that the machine will prevent from securing while applications were stacking or some running typically (mail applications, Python contents, and so on) Be that as it may, I just acknowledged the evil execution.

Linux friend just sent me this-

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This should not be buried here - it’s too interesting. Definitely is worthy of it’s own thread, as cases and DIY are of interest to many and this might become project for L5 too (and get variations). Re-post this as a new thread!

[edit: that new thread: Pinephone Gets 3D Printed Mechanical Keyboard]

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I’ve been thinking this for awhile but then I just saw your comment and I completely agree. I will love my Librem 5 and I love the fact you can remove the modem and wifi/bt cards, but honestly, I believe the majority of people would prefer a slimmer phone over removable cards. I don’t think they will get the number of orders they deserve with the current dimensions of the phone.

Also, by the time Fir comes along the software will be in an even better state.

Edit: When I say majority of people, I mean the masses, not people on this forum or enthusiasts like myself.