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Two things are discussed here, GDPR/Trump and slightly off-topic anonymous domain owners.
First, Trump verses GDPR - Why is he doing this? It’s Trump for heavens sake!
IMHO: (keeping mind that, except for the giants, no one owns a domain name - we just rent them)
One doesn’t need WHOIS to start using someones mail sever. WHOIS is not the lord and masters of domain data registration owners (or shouldn’t be), tho they are trying to become that overlord. But with the anonymity part, WHOIS is becoming WHO WAS. The only thing from WHOIS tells us if the domain name is available, or not and if not, the rest is a useless screen of redacted information. So WHO needs them? Domain registrations is what may save them. The WHOIS database is a waste of bandwidth.
Having the Registrar data show up on WHOIS should be a choice by domain renter, not a requirement that it be a secret. If I don’t want to be listed, then so be it as that should be the default. But if I want my name there, I should have the ability to turn that on.
A close option would be to add a method where the Registrar provides a tool for visitors to contact the Admin of the Domain Name.
CIRA, the self-appointed Internet Registry “Authority” in Canada, where one uses their contact form and CIRA forwards that to the Admin who makes the decision whether or not to respond.
Just WHO does WHOIS think they are? We need a WHOARE where domain owners can be listed via our Registrar thereby forcing overseers like WHOIS from dictating what is best for all.
Freedoms include the right to choose and WHOIS took away that freedom.
‘Remove one freedom every generation, and soon there will be no freedoms and no one will notice.’ Thanks to the speed of the Internet - we lose freedoms every day and even if we notice, the sheople-like bobbleheads just follow without question. Volume outweighs logic.
Just had to add my 10 bits worth (inflation).
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it goes like this “when you fuck with the money god …”
Governments and big corporations(fines are laughable to them) make but don’t obey the laws , only the citizens have to.
GDBR on no GDBR they still spy,data harvest and whatever they want to do regardless of who is the puppet leader and his minions are at any given time.
I don’t believe in the Easter Bunny but I do in Santa Claws.
I just want to say goodbye to most Google and I really want to get my hands on my new Lebrem 5.
Other than that I don’t really care. My happiness matters.
Thanks for the tip. Njalla is a great idea, and it seems they are good at what they do, but if I am not mistaken, they just keep our domains registration data out of the hands of peeps, pervs, and SMRCers. They don’t protect visitors to the site. I can see how it is something that would appeal to criminals and spammers - not just honest right-to-privacy seekers like you or I…
Your reply post led me to another site via Njalla that suggested Ipredator VPN service.
Lately, I have been tasked with removing all the SMRCers from several client webs sites, and removal of visitor data before any of the peeps get their hands on the visitors data, be it their GPU, APU, CPU - you name it. It’s not easy especially Wordpress which needs monitoring to assure update/upgrades, patches and fixes do not re-install SMRCers.
I think how Trump’s attack on the GDPR will only backfire onto the U.S., just as the world seems to have decided to ignore his daily rash of rants. Unfortunately, the GDRP (and the other new host of country-like regulations) if used in Google’s Website Popularity Contest are required, if one plays into Google hands, even on a Mum & Pop website that sells hand made cookie cutters in their local area.
We need a World Wide search engine. Not one that keeps telling me to buy certain T-towels because I looked at some on eBay!
The bigger they are, the harder they fall … author = History 101
BTW - I feel insulted by corporations and government that are forcing money out of MY wallet just to maintain my right to privacy which according almost everything on the internet, has no value. People are the commodity now and is ‘they’ are going to make money off of my privacy, they should pay me.
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and when they do they make sure to drag everybody else with them …
The puppets fall , the puppet masters don’t. Se la vie
Trumpy , Merkel , etc. are the puppets
… and if you are really concerned to register the domain anonymously then you also need a hosting service that allows you to be anonymous.
Now I cannot think of any reason in the free world to make use of that kind of anonymization. Other than the obvious criminal element, there of course those not-so-free countries where anonymity helps to get out a current event tellers side of things. But they utilize the - drum roll - Dark Web or the nicer places like the Deep Web for that anonymity and ways to get ‘the real truth’ out.
Making a web site so that the nothing can detect what web site the browser visited would last 5 minutes on any government process before being dismissed as anti-government and a threat to the county then removed in some countries, along with a few heads as well.
The websites I’ve dealt with remove all the embedded spyware AKA ‘apps’ so visitors are less likely to show where they have been. But of course, their browser has to be de-liced as well. But what is offered, is a “Right to Privacy Assured” policy. Aside from that angle, I see no reason for any site to be anonymous. But as I mentioned already. Web site anonymity is close to being anon with the demise of the whois data.
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I think though that in His case, they wouldn’t bend over for Him - so he throws a tantrum, blames them for everything, *twits some some bad words at them, and calls it a successful day. But a new broom sweeps clean and no matter what party one favours the most, it’s still a Party - free food, free cocktails and it’s bottoms up for taxpayers (just make sure it’s backed up against a wall).
The GDRP is another set of country’s building a wall around their Internet. China, Russia, and more, including the country of California are building those digital barriers. Every country wants to control the Internet and haven’t realized yet that Advertising Marketeers own the Internet now. IMHO.
I remember when we could “surf the Information Highway” but now it’s thumb through the Google catalogue built on it’s popularity contests, that lists everything that’s for sale in one’s neighborhood. The new (new to me) “information” highway is so cluttered with Google’s billboards, one can’t see the forest - - for the billboards.
Canada’s Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada has the gaul to send our information to Google. Privacy + Google. Matter and anti-matter. Too bad the the Commissioner and Google don’t cancel each other out.
Canada too is building it’s own version of the GDRP through the self-appointed sexcandal-plagued Canadian Internet Registry Authority (CIRA), operating at the grace and pleasure of the government. Soon, we’ll need a license and a fee-permit just to surf outside our own countries! Plus taxes - of course.
Just say’n s’all
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*If it’s Tweeter, then they are tweets. If it’s Twitter then they are twits. So sayeth the grammar cops
I think it’s going to come down to someone building tools that allow the average person to open their door to the web partially, fully, or not at all in each given case. I always ask myself what person-to-person interaction mimics the current digital situation, and how would I act if the situation existed with a real person instead of digitally. You have to shut people out or let them in to your world on a case-by-case basis. But first, trust has to be established.
So when a guy knocks on the door to my home (analogy is click bait or spam), he or she has to act quickly to gain my interest or else I close the door. And if they lie to me at all or do anything that I believe is unethical, I close the door. If the person says “hi, I live next door”, my trust and interest goes way up. We need tools that do the same thing in the digital world. The first things I think that are needed are tools to block everyone out, just to start. Close and lock your door to everyone before you ask yourself who to let in. If you can’t close your door, deciding who can come in is not relevant because anyone can come in. So when I get my Librem 5, it’ll be a while before it becomes my daily driver. I am not going to sacrifice privacy for convenience there at all. I am going to start by locking everything up so tight that it’s difficult to access it myself. Then I’ll unlock each port and install each new app one at a time as I assess the risks and decide that the unlocking is safe in each given case. I plan to do a lot of networking to my home PCs from my L5. In the process, I’ll be looking for ways to give my friends and associates limited access to electronic access to my digital world. In essence, I want to build a digital village full of people who I know and trust to one degree or another. Outside of that virtual village will be an impenetrable wall. Whatever exists outside of that wall won’t matter to me because I will be safe inside. The idea is to create your own eco-system full of locking doors and people you trust with keys that are appropriate to your level of trust in each person and to help others to do the same. By default, everything else is locked out. So maybe you lose a lot of what Google has to give and you get your privacy back. Maybe you and your friends in this digital village start their own search engine eventually. The idea is to control your environment and not to enter unsafe environments. I’ll keep my Android phone until my new safe home in this new digital village is completed enough that it is safe to move in before getting rid of my Android phone. I plan to force the internet to conform to my own ideals. That will mean that I won’t have access to many websites and apps. I’ll adapt and use my Android phone for many things until I find suitable replacements.
I really like this thought process a lot!!!
As a puppet I request correct french
C’est la vie
I’m already sore there from sitting down too long and don’t need …“what Google has to give” to add to the pain.
I believe, practice, and promote that we can live without G⚇gle. For everything Google offers, there are safe alternatives. Unfortunately, most have been assimilated already so rescue is futile. People were instructed, coerced, brainwashed to “Google it”.
Google paints itself as the Second Coming, can walk on water and turn it into wine. It’s hard to rescue a ‘Jim Jones’-like following from that kind of *SMIRCing. It will be a long time before we get our lives back as long as Google is free to predate innocent people and extort their privacy to be pimped out to any marketeer.
Arrgg!
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*Stalk, Monitor, Inject, Record and Control.
Cute. What is that character and what are you using it to signify?
This could be left field but I saw it as a pig’s snout, poking itself into my business.
PS Maybe someone needs to update this topic title.
I was trying to get two googly eyes peeking at us, but settled for the snout. How? Ask E - she’s all .
This could be left field but I saw it as a pig’s snout, poking itself into my business.
Perhaps a small edit such as “Why the Trump Administration is going after #GDPR” to
“Why the Trump Administration is NO LONGER ABLE to go after the GDPR”?
But you know how titles work. They can mean anything, like President for example can become Dictator, Rabble-rouser, Supreme Being, God, Head Groper Whisperer, … just teasing ya Donald - no need to go twitting it, or is that tweeting? Twitter is twitting and tweeter tweets - no? I’d better stop before ---- gotta go - some huge un-marked uniformed people just kicked my door in!
But I doubt European Union would cow-down to Darth-Don and his Stormtrumpers. I like ♕Don, but not in the White House. Barnum Bailey is more his class.
ooops
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OK. Answering my question more specifically … U+2687 … “white circle with two dots” … and apparently intended for use with the board game, Go, so not specifically intended as beady eyes or poking snout. But I can relate. Henceforth in this forum Google must be written G⚇gle.
Since the ‘codes’ are not yet regulated by Microsoft or Google, and no ©,™, ®, emblazoned on it, and a circle with 2 eyes was around before Etch-A-Sketch, I think “GO” set out to borrow it.
Around here, the ‘⚇’ is representative of a pig. Pigs generally sniff and snort around anything in the pen using their snout as a shovel looking for anything of value then gobble it down. The farmer uses the end result to help fertilize the fields to grow crops to throw back into the pens. Sound like a dis-service we know?
But keep it quiet - if our Prime Minister finds out, there’l be a new tax on plain text. Kind of reminds me when the guys that created ".gif’ for images, wanted $1.00 per GIF used. That went far.
But, back on topic. I think the world is about to start listening and caring what comes out of the White House now. If anything, I hope the bed pan’s new contents heed the warning shots fired by half of Americans. Too bad so many warning shots hit fellow Americans.
Instead of the White House condemning everything that isn’t U.S. approved, hopefully the U.S. will set new standards and start discussing in a non-threatening way, things like GDRP with the E.U. and that the U.S. gets it’s states on-board; like the Country of California and its CCPA and NNA regulations, and Americas cousin Canada.
The Word Wide Web is fast becoming the Local Wide Catalogue, sprinkled with a bit of biased propaganda (AKA News), conduit to new regulations, what some call entertainment (also AKA News), and leash for most.
Remember “surfing” the un-regulated Information Highway? Internet? It ran much better when self-policed than as a political brewhaha managed by marketeers pimping out our rights to privacy.
A friend asked me to say all that…
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