Will try it in the near future, if that sole some issues and think my daily driver Librem5 will outrace the android with this feature.
Any opinions on the servers? Which to use, what do you use to identify good ones and any thoughts on setting up your own?
As a follow up to this post and previous posts, I wanted to let people know that I can make good, high-quality voice calls on Dino now using JMP.chat and Dino. For now, everything seems to be working as it should be - other than I appear to be having some notification problems which I addressing in a separate post. The messaging also mostly works well.
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Hi JR-Fi,
i think this is not important because you indirect use Servers with other IDs, if you communicate with 3erd Party. And They use a Smartphone OS you can not control and like Email a third Party E-Mail System… which can try to read and analyses every email crossing.
However encryption can save you from some minor issue. Local OS AIs … you know. You can run and Setup your own Server but that is not so easy and you can not be sure if your follows or Families use it the way you like to have to use it.
Hi @flanders51 as of the time of my post, did you have to make any customizations or install anything other than standard packages?
I have jmp.chat and a jmp.chat physical sim in my L5.
Do you know of any steo by step guides to getting L5 up to snuff to use Dino + jmp.chat for txt and voice?
Thank you.
Not really. Just followed the steps in Dino.
I must correct my post, though, I can sometimes call people but it does not always work to call. Also, people can call me and I see them calling but I cannot answer them. I am hoping the next version of Dino works better as it is real close.
SMS and MMS work great. No problems.
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Via the excellent blog at linmob.net, some recent Chatty and XMPP news:
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devrtz :debian: @devrtz@fosstodon.org
Chatty 0.8.5 has released 
- Matured #matrix support through an update to #libcmatrix 0.0.2
- Fixed a number of UI papercuts and some regressions
- And more!
Check out the release notes at
https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Chatty/
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*erebion @erebion@chaos.social*
Chat client Chatty will drop XMPP support.
Unless someone starts maintaining that part. This could be YOU!
XMPP is looking for a maintainer (#842) · Issues · World / Chatty · GitLab
This is apparently the only client that supports both XMPP and Matrix and it would be sad to see it losing support.
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Frankly it supported both, somewhat poorly, so if they improve Matrix and drop XMPP it’s fine – Dino.im is a superior XMPP solution and works well enough on the L5, to the point I always disable XMPP in Chatty.
I know it’s nice to have multi-protocol chat clients but that’s what ends up happening I guess, too many differences in different chat systems that it’s difficult to properly support.
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Thumbs up for Dino.im
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Schimon Jehudah stepped in to maintain it XMPP is looking for a maintainer (#842) · Issues · World / Chatty · GitLab
I think the advantage of chatty is its system integration - for example the work in progress unified push support, if we have xmpp in chatty that is a benefit, else this has to be added to both chatty (for matrix this is being added) and separately for dino. Also chatty will wake up on SMS currently (a side benefit until we have unified push), but not Dino.
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I like XMPP than Matrix. So drop Matrix support in Chatty i absolute fine too. 
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I also like XMPP over Matrix, but we have to see the reality. There is more developer interest in Matrix compared to XMPP so it gets more developer attention. Also XMPP is too fragmented (even in this case the available resources are fragmented between chatty and dino), where as Matrix has at least one good client for all platforms maintained by a single organization with many full time developers. A new XMPP developer or more likely to create yet another new XMPP library or app than contributing to an existing project (sometimes there is no library or app in their favorite language, but sometimes despite an existing library and app as well). XMPP still need more investment for wider adoption (things are improving, like recent release of Quicksy on iOS). Unlike other Free Software apps, a messaging app is not only a personal choice, it is usually decided by people you need to talk to often (or you force people you need to talk to use XMPP - this can work only with a limited number of people and not always possible).
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We are voting to pick one xmpp client at debphoshfund project (setup bounties for high priority issues for debian on mobile) here → Loomio
More participation on this and other polls would be nice.
Note about codema.in service (as people ask often when I share the poll): codema.in is loomio instance run by fsci community (I’m part of its admin team). loomio is similar to discourse but with many different kinds of polls built in to help make decisions easier. loomio is Free Software built by a worker owned cooperative.
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