I’m waiting for the day when I can have a multi-region modem, and improved functionality, especially navigation and web-browsing. Maybe Crimson or Dawn will bring at least some of that.
A more lightweight Linux phone somewhere down the line wouldn’t suck, either.
And my Android’s iodeOS is on Android 14, but you can find screenshots of 15 online; it can probably be seen at arstechnica.com.
(And my Android is a 2017 model that officially stopped at Android 9, so it got a reprieve from the e-recycle bin.)
The white stripe in Phosh comes from Android (I’m pretty sure), but Phoshs over all design comes from 2019 or even before. So seems like Google was watching Phosh (or just had the same idea without knowing Phosh).
I made Mockups last year. See this. The first row is without search bar (hidden), while OSK opens search bar (2nd row). Maybe Google stole from my design?
I think just the static image doesn’t tell much without the functionalities. And the dark theme just adds to the similar appearance. If Android copied something, then linux community gets to use the playgorund burn “we had that first” …?
Is this like in the 80’s/90’s when IBM (?) made that design manual for desktop GUIs and Windows and OS/2 (and many linux desktops as well) ended up looking similar because they were trying to make something usable…? Don’t all good design choices get emulated (to both directions)?
Of course @JR-Fi . Android 15 will also get an improved “desktop mode” which is “still not as good as Samsungs solution” (YouTuber said). What is about our convergence mode? Sometimes all the changes for all systems come at the same time, because the time is ready. But one is always the first one - even if people do not know.
That is not. Hard to be sure, but there seems to be a few pixels difference and the L5 rotate is at at an angle. I’m not saying they aren’t close or may have had influences from the same sources or something like that but not identical.
I haven’t used phosh. However, the full app grid (pull up from bottom), frequently used app section, user placed icons (on home screens which navigate left-right), and search bar (when you’ve pulled up the app grid) has been in Android for a long time. I’m not really observant of UI changes, but I really haven’t noticed any — it all seems the same to me. I have an old Motorolla phone with Android 10 … it didn’t have the white lines, but IIRC my Pixel 7a (before I put on GrapheneOS) was Android 14 and had the white lines as well as an Android 13 tablet I have. Furthermore that kind of “look” or “theme” variation is what you would expect between vendors of even the same version of the base Android.
The only “noticeable” UI changes that I’m aware of has been the move from a 3 button top level navigation ( “back” (triangle), “home” circle, “choose running app” square) to a gesture based navigation was done, IIRC, in Android 13 although Android still allows the “classic” 3-button navigation.
It’s about the “task bar” with opened apps you can see on the first screenshot right phone on this thread. It looks very similar to Phosh and as far as I know (please correct wrong information) Android had a separate page for open apps before.
The app grid itself doesn’t matter (in my opinion).
It’s about the “task bar” with opened apps you can see on the first screenshot right phone on this thread. It looks very similar to Phosh and as far as I know (please correct wrong information) Android had a separate page for open apps before.
I’m not sure what is meant by “task bar”. Which photo?
The one that shows A15 Beta 4 and QPR1 Beta has looked like that on Pixels since at least Pixel 5’s (and maybe earlier). I think that’s called the “Settings Shortcuts” … which also lets you access “Settings”. Even my old Android 9 device had something similar although they were the size of icons and round rather than larger oval buttons.
The one that has “Share or Record an App” at the top of the rightmost view is, I think, the screenshot of what happens when you hit “Start Recording” in the app running on the left (where it says “Start Recording”). I believe it’s the interface for that app, which is letting you choose either a running app to record or letting you start an app to record. AFAIK, the general interface to allow you to switch between running applications is similar but is a full screen view … and has been that way for a long time. [ I should also note that ever since Android 7, one has been able to split screen vertically and have two running applications visible at once. The shorter centered white bar looks like the split screen bar, which allows you to size vertically.]
That one with A15 Beta 4 etc was the last screenshot. And with “task bar” I’m speaking about that thing from desktop PCs where you can see currently used applications, just translated into phone UI (so it may has a different name).
But you’re maybe right, it could be an app. I think that was one main reason here for this thread, because it looks very close to Phosh.
I’m pretty sure it’s just part of the Screen Recording application and not an addition to the home screen running-application-chooser (since screen view on the right is side-by-side with the “Screen Recording” app). The only device where I can install Android 15 is currently running GrapheneOS and I’m not going to test Android 15.
On my Android 13 device, if I go into “screen recording” mode, it just starts recording and the recording includes the navigation to start the application or choose a running application.
[Edit:
Perhaps MidnightSun could have been more transparent/descriptive. If you use tineye to find out where those screenshots came from, you get the context. Android 15: What we know so far and what features we want to see . In regard to the screenshot you were talking about the heading is:
“Partial screen sharing” and the descriptive text is
With Android 15, users can share or record just an app window rather than the entire device screen. This feature was enabled first in Android 14 QPR 2 on Pixel devices but will now be available across the wider Android platform.
Given this, it’s pretty clear that this is part of the “screen recording” application … and that it has borrowed on the “split screen” mode to allow one to choose a running app (top) or start a different app for the recording.
]
Applications in a grid layout goes back at least 30 years. Circular icons aren’t exactly new either.
Notifications coming down from the top goes back to windows mobile if not older.
Also none of these things are exactly revolutionary ideas and are all things I would expect to naturally be independently developed over time. Who took inspiration from whom? both likely took inspiration from all of the different interfaces to come before and will influence interfaces to come after.
I stopped using Github because it was bought by Microsoft and I stopped using Guava because it’s more or less a Google project. Android Open Source Project is led by Google, there is no such thing as degoogled Android:
Reference: https://source.android.com/
Android is an open source operating system for mobile devices and a corresponding open source project led by Google
Everyone knows that AOSP is a Google project. When people refer to “degoogled Android” they are referring to “GApps” = “proprietary Google applications” and services (gmail, google maps, google contacts, google drive, …). I use GrapheneOS.
Personally, I have no issues with FOSS code from Google. And I wonder why it is that you have an issue with FOSS code like Guava which uses the Free Apache 2.0 license. Stats show that recently Google made about 7.5% of the commits to the Linux kernel. With the number of commits from Google to the Linux kernel, are you worried about that???
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both likely took inspiration from all of the different interfaces to come before and will influence interfaces to come after.