I think it is about the webpage/shop itself, the nextdock is kind of inert, it has firmware to control the audio/video/power input/output but I don’t think it can get any information from you.
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I was referring to purchasing it elsewhere. Other websites are not as friendly with their privacy policies when using their websites or purchasing from them compared to Purism. Remember, you are the product.
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I ordered a NexDock from Purism about 6 months ago. I recently checked in support but there’s still no ETA when it would be able to ship or whatever.
I have my Librems set up with adblockers and a browser set to always run in the “incognito” mode, so that every subsequent session forgets all cookies when I start it up each day.
The Nex website says it ships in 4 days, which is a lot faster than 6+ months. If I buy a second one directly from Nex instead of from Purism, will the hit to my personal data really be so bad? It’s just really tempting to get one in advance of the Purism one, so I have it sooner to play with.
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It depends on your threat model.
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Same could be said of almost any online purchase. Nothing specific about the Nexdock itself screams “hey look at me, I’m a privacy focused individual trying to hide from the government and big tech.”
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I don’t see how it makes much difference. There must be relatively minor differences between the specific NexDock model that you ordered through Purism and the NexDock model that you are talking about here.
The core privacy threat is in the computer itself. A lapdock is “just” a keyboard, mouse and display. That is not to say that it is impossible for a compromise to originate in a lapdock.
The other aspect to consider is the wireless.
- On the one hand, anything wireless is inherently more suspect when it comes to security and privacy.
- On the other hand, will the NexDock even work wirelessly with the Librem 5? (either charging or data)
So, at a minimum, you would want to be able to disable the wireless functionality in the NexDock i.e. disable in ‘software’ presumably using some kind of on-screen display. I would be asking the vendor whether it is possible to turn wireless off.
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I’m in the same boat, but only 3 months+. Really wish someone would explain what is the problem. 
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I received my Nexdock XL last month. It appears very solid and well built. I had a UBPerfect mini before which worked well but it can only charge the phone with 500mA leading to the L5 battery additionally discharged (slower though). The ND XL provides up to 1000mA and after playing with it I can confirm that it did not discharge L5 battery.
Two problems though: when I connected it first it showed weird display settings without allowing to choose the best resolution. After a restart it showed the desired resolution, worked except the touchscreen. The phone though got very hot (flashing red LED) and after a shutdown the cold phone was “dead” - only reflashing would bring it back to life. After reflashing the phone the XL works as intended in convergence mode - except that the touchscreen is not working (it is not recognized in the mobile settings app either).
In a different post with specific gsettings command it was possible to have the peripheral touchscreen functional but I have not found the correct settings.
It is a bit disappointing that the convergence only seems to flawlessly work with a few selected models, thus more or less a limited convergence mode.
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It’s been my experience that a NexDock product from their site (although not an XL) is wacky and finicky, but plugging into a little USBC hub/dock along with keyboard/mouse/monitor tends to work like a PC in most cases. Maybe I’m just biased because I had the hub first, but it seemed better.
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I just got a nexdock xl today. Charged the xl battery then plugged in the L5. Nothing happened at first. Then, I rotated the usb-c cable when plugging into the L5 and it docked 
After about 10 minutes of use, I notice the L5 is hot, and charging stopped. Otherwise it was charging from the xl.
The Mobile Settings / Convergence screen doesn’t show that it is docked to the xl though? That is disappointing. I will eventually reflash the L5. Some things have gotten a bit haywired on my L5 of late. Not sure why. Maybe that will help.
As I test/explore more with the xl I’ll post here.
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I think that’s just a software issue. I guess if your Librem 5 was a bit haywire before you docked then it may well be sensible to reflash before doing much testing with the Nexdock XL.
Assuming that video is working to the dock then the bare minimum is to check lsusb output.
On my lapdock, NB: not a Nexdock, I had to do some gsettings magic to get the touchscreen to work. Did the touchscreen work out-of-the-box for you?
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My L5 is getting stuttery/freezy, but I’m trying to hold out for Crimson.
Depending on your experience, I may also try the XL.
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No, it is not working when the L5 is docked to it. there is an On-Screen Display to control the XL settings. That is a touch screen control, and that is working. I just need to get the drivers installed or properly configured for it to work.
The display and powering/charging the L5 is all working fine. My one complaint initially is with NexDock design. There is no space for a good palm rest. and I am not liking the touchpad on the rightside of the keyboard. Also, the touchpad sensitivity needs to be adjusted. It isn’t working smoothly. But, it looks like NexDock hands control of that over to the device. So, the L5 doesn’t have that (or I will need to figure out the gsettings for it). Everything about this seems to be custom designed for Samsung devices. Not much else.
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Then that is probably why it does not recognise that you are docked.
This post (among others) summarises the needed configuration: UPERFECT X Mini lapdock works with Librem 5 - #94 by Altor
… in order to associate mouse events from a touchscreen back to the display. (The point is that mouse events from a touchscreen come in on one device but that device bears no relationship with the corresponding display device, particularly if using HDMI output to a touchscreen but even when using USB-C video altmode to output to a touchscreen.)
It wasn’t obvious to me - from the lsusb output - which USB device among the several that appear when you connect a lapdock is the correct one to use but I guess you will work it out for your lapdock.
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thanks for this. I tried it and I’m still showing that I’m not docked in the Mobile Settings. Tried rebooting also, no luck. I think I got the right usb device, I might have to keep testing to see if I got the right one or not.
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But does the touchscreen work in terms of using it from the Librem 5?
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Not following. How would I use the XL touchscreen from the L5?
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I mean … the Librem 5 displays its output on the lapdock and touch events on the lapdock’s touchscreen are correctly processed on the Librem 5 i.e. have the correct observable effects on the state of the Librem 5’s GUI. In other words, the lapdock display and touchscreen replace the Librem 5’s display and touchscreen - assuming that that is the way you have set things up.
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Ok, right, no touch actions are occurring when I touch the XL screen. I’ve double checked the gsettings I used and it all seems correct. Since the OSD is touch based, that is working, so the XL screen is working fine.
I was able to use the XL as a 2nd monitor with my L15 using the hdmi port and it worked nicely in that capacity. Watch a movie on it
Also, I spent a great deal of time today working with the L5 plugged into the XL. Except for the lack of touchscreen capability, everything else worked pretty nice. The screen is a very nice screen, so that was great to work with. The sensitivity of the touchpad needs to be changed. It’s not the most responsive. I have a bluetooth protoarc xk01 keyboard with touchpad which works beautifully with the L5. That touchpad is much more sensitive and responsive than the XL. And since the touchpad is wired to the L5 via the usb-c, it must be a config?!
Also, from a charge perspective, the XL has more than enough juice to keep the L5 fully charged while using it. So, the power aspects seem to be nice.
Also, I flipped the XL into tent mode while connected to the L5, and the display automatically adjusted That was nice! So, If I wanted to use my protoarc BT keyboard/touchpad that becomes a viable option. And at 15.9" it is a very nice screen.
At this point my biggest complaint is the lack of a good palm rest when using the keyboard, and having the touchpad off to the side. I have tendinitis so my hands get more sensitized if I don’t have a good palm rest. Using it today, I was on a table, so that ended up working fine. If I use it on my “laptop” though, my arms start screaming fairly quickly. Just not comfortable or convenient.
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Then I think that you would be hoping for someone else, as per topic title, who has bought the Nexdock XL!
The one observation that I would make is that I am using the lapdock display as the primary and sole display i.e. phone display turned off / not joined or mirrored.
(I actually also have a mini-mouse for use with the lapdock so I am not overly dependent on either touchscreen or touchpad - so I may not have noticed some gremlins - but both do work for me.)
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