Is the crypto & protocols even published? I don’t find anything on the website. Only plenty of buzzwords. So they offer money for an closed algorithm. So we can be sure that the crypto is not safe. But to hack the thing a participant would have to buy their stuff to analyse it.
There is so much stuff on the site but so little substance. Great website. More of that please. 
Even if you broke their encryption, do you really believe they would send you a check? A million of dollars would be like a pocket change to them if they’re making too much profits from selling their fancy knick-knacks to dumb people which there are so aplenty of around. You could bet there are more than one million of dumb people in the world, so say one million of $1,000 phones have been sold (but still not yet produced and shipped), Cryptodata gets to profit a billion dollars, that’s 1/1000th of profits they might be willing to give that much away, even if they don’t pay taxes. You could go ahead order one from them yourself and when you do finally got their phone, won’t you let us know? lol.
On their list of security features, “Privacy” is marked as both “secured” and “encrypted.”
What does it mean to encrypt privacy? lol
Either there are some bad translations from Romanian to English, or this is BS. I know which one I would put my money on 
In case you didn’t get it, my previous message was sarcasm. That’s why I put /s at the end, but it seems even that wasn’t enough
/s closes off a strikethrough, so I usually just type /sarcasm.
More on topic, Their offerings remind me of the BOB cellphone. Also advertising voice over blockchain! Except…now having looked it up again after I first saw it years ago, BOB looks like it’s actually trying and isn’t just showcasing renders. I can also actually extract meaning from the text on the Function X (not be confused with f(x)tec) site.
Supposedly cryptodata OS is an an android fork. I say supposedly because their website has failed to convince me that anything they’re selling even exists. Apparently it does though in some capacity but it doesn’t seem to be what their website suggests. As for the laptop, I suppose it’s not that hard to take Bliss OS and shove your own settings app, default applications, and launcher into it, then set the laptop up to dual boot.
I don’t trust these guys, much like I (like to think I) wouldn’t have trusted Encrochat.
I haven’t even seen a hint that the smartphone is based on Android or so. This is all, mysterious. It’s like X files.
But its getting better and better. Everything gets explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDuLMMrO3Q
Warning:You may hurt yourself watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DAbBml-mpY
I wonder a) how this can be legal and b) if they sell devices to produce bitcoins and let the customers pay for HW, network and energy.
Later the situation got worse and he’s feeling robbed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebAAW6gejo
P.S.: poor customers
Oh I’m not good at reading that kind of thing, not even emoji. Language/code of internet forums have evolved beyond me that I usually get lost.
Indeed, what kind of encryption they use. If you send encrypted email to someone who doesn’t not have the same encryption system, would it still work? Is it open pgp? I’d bet not. Even if someone cracked their cheap encryption, all they could do is change a few codes then tell crackers to try again as they would feed bread pieces to the ducks.
Good for Chris. I’d bet there are more victims not forthcoming has he is and probably are embarassed or don’t care.
It seems that their product actually exists, but it’s just a cheap third-party phone they put into a fancy box and overprice the shit out of it
This company could be running ANoM scam on their devices or just their own scam. Since my aim is for privacy, not for any criminal purposes, but I’d say those criminals deserve what they got.
What is ANoM?
On its glitzy website, the ‘ANoM’ phone looks like any new tech innovation with sleek black lines, ‘invite only’ exclusivity and a pledge to ‘enforce your right to privacy’.
In Romanian, “basm” means “fairy-tale” and I find it to be a nice word and a bit amusing to be used for a laptop.
Just wanted to translate that. I don’t know anything about them (and I don’t care enough to check them).
I don’t see why you would be interested in this at all, when Framework’s laptop exists.
And if it didn’t, the Librem 14 is still a more appealing option than this. (Read: if Framework didn’t exist, I would order a Librem 14)
Hello “Privacy community” . We have just one answer . Hack it 
CryptoDATA salute you
Hahaha this cant be serious! Hello Cryptodata, instead of asking us to hack a device we wouldn’t ever have enough trust in to buy (And I don’t think you are willing to send a couple of devices our way so we can actually audit it), why don’t you explain why users should trust a completely proprietary OS and applications. Are you willing to publish your source code and reproducible builds?
Hello. Yes. This week we will launch on market our encrypted chat for all devices. This year we will make everything open source.
Mom? Is it you? Please stop following me and rambling about everything random you hear me talk about at home. Please.
BASM laptop is owned by cryptodata from Romania. Nice product and good experience. Excellent quality product. It can access dual OS. We can use Crypto data OS and Windows O
I was puzzled by their footer about export/import to other countries, which states that their devices use “an impenetrable encryption algorithm called VOBP”
If there were such thing as an impenetrable algorithm, I guess NIST would absolutely love to dissect it.
Or would the word “impenetrable” in this case mean security by obscurity and proprietary crypto?
To my knowledge, no algorithm was ever mathematically proved to be “impenetrable”, not even the four so-called quantum-resistant proposed by NIST. An algorithm can only be considered “safe”…until it is broken.
Other than this, their server is full of malevolent pest, twitter-google-facebook whatnot - so much for privacy!
This company and their products seems to me like a business riding on FUD ambient discourse in order to seduce naive know-nothing public seeking enhanced security.
Yes. We know about Romania and US military secret love affair…
