Branch off: My comment about r/Purism re Librem 5

I also check r/Purism from time to time to look for people who have received the L5 and read the discussions. From what I’ve casually read of Adwaitian’s comments, I wouldn’t think he/she was trolling anyone. Diverging from the prevailing attitude/mood of that thread, of course.

I don’t read every word in that thread, though, so I might have missed something more egregious than not believing what we believe. :man_shrugging:

I can confirm that Adwaitian sometimes went over the limit in praising Purism, blatantly ignoring actual problems. It did not create a good picture for Purism supporters.

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Sure, redrumsir.

Checking out the top few posts of r/purism once every few months when someone posts a link here is “keeping track of people”?

Let’s look at the 10 most recent threads over the last 26 days:

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/uqzrjk/what_is_the_functionality_status_of_the_l5_these/

No comments from redrumsir

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/uqyui0/purism_says_phones_arent_coming_until_next_year/

No comments from redrumsir

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/upqzg8/purism_should_not_use_fedex_for_shipping/

No comments from redrumsir.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/uo4tx8/purism_not_refunding_on_librem_14/

That was started by redrumsir and, so, naturally has comments from redrumsir. It points out the issues with the Librem 14 refunds and refers to this forum. I pointed it out in this thread as an example of “caveat emptor”.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/uo6oo9/factory_reset/

One short comment from redrumsir. It appears to be helpful support that you don’t think exists on /r/Purism:

[redrumsir] The ath9k based wifi chip requires no firmware for wifi and the driver is FOSS. If you want bluetooth to work you need to use the non-Free drivers.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/uj73l4/one_week_librem_5_field_trial/

No comment from redrumsir.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/ugndoh/purism_librem_14_review_part_1_the_ethical/

There are comments from redrumsir. It basically takes issue with a
review that includes “repairability” that doesn’t consider that Purism doesn’t
offer many important replacement parts (fan+heatsink, keyboard, screen, case/lid/hinge).

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/ug6ah3/mouse_cursor_is_not_shown_in_phosh/

No comments from redrumsir.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/ubm0me/bricked_phone/

No comments from redrumsir.

  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/ua23n7/how_do_i_buy_librem_phone_in_india/

No comments from redrumsir.

Summary: I don’t think that’s a good example about “unhealthy” behavior on “every other thread”. redrumsir starts one thread and comments on 2 others out of the recent 10 threads over the course of 26 days. Is that the best example you have of an “unhealthy” behavior?

[Addendum:
I had a quick look at the next 10 threads (approximately another 25 days). My count shows redrumsir had two comments total (one comment in each of 2 out of the 10 threads).
]

Of course “checking out the top few posts” is not keeping track of people. It’s your assertion that you kept track of people (“There are users there who were complaining two, three years ago, who are still active on every other thread”) that amounts to what I think of as “keeping track of people”. :wink: Don’t try to re-characterize that behavior now that it has been pointed out as, perhaps, being as “unhealthy” as you criticize in others.

Funny, I had a feeling you were going to pretend not to understand hyperbole.

I’m not going to debate definitions or post statistics with someone who’s not here in good faith.

I like it when people say what they mean. So you didn’t literally mean “every other one”? That’s fine. I certainly didn’t think “alternating”, but I did think “roughly half”.

So did you mean “unhealthy”? I’m not sure that comments in 5 threads over the course of 50 days is unhealthy. If you also didn’t mean “unhealthy”, I’m not sure you said anything.

I’m glad you brought up “good faith”, because that’s almost what I was going to say when you were trying to re-characterize what you said so as to not make it seem that you were keeping track of people. I phrased it differently because I didn’t want to be accusatory.

“good faith” = honesty or sincerity of intention

I think my intention has been completely clear throughout. And to be completely clear, I see your last message as you not wanting to discuss your claims after I dug up the data. That’s fine, but then just say that instead of accusing me of not acting in “good faith”.

That’s probably because I haven’t bothered to post on r/Purism for a while and u/adwaitan has been banned, so there is nobody fun for you to argue with any more, so you had to come to this forum to find some sparring opponents. :slight_smile:

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You missed where I looked at the most recent 20 threads over 50 days. Even less activity. The fact is that there has been less misinformation there lately. I also pointed out the Adwaitian connection:

For what it’s worth, I don’t think you troll (much).

Seems Doordash has taken on that job recently with the escape of a member of the punk group “Pussy Riot”.

Doordash for L5 delivery anyone? Your courier may be a surprise!

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