Certain Ugly Words

@dcz
Google… let’s assume that’s a search engine? DDG, Startpage, Gigablast/private.sh, ipfs, i2p
Facebook… L1 Mastodon, obviously
M$… Don’t even know what that’s supposed to be for. E-mail?
Flicker… Piwigo, Pixabay, Mediagoblin, PixelFed
Pocket… Wallabag, turtl.app

It always stings when libre software/et.al references proprietary, user abusive solutions. It’d feel good to have this junk removed and services could be added back through another section in the settings for those who need them.

There’s also some services by https://e.foundation/products/ for those (in Europe) who’ve already begun to de-google their android phones.

It’d be great if Purism offered an Etesync server as part of L1 and Cal+CardDAV. That should cover most syncing related stuff.

@spacemanspiffy
Mozilla gets paid hundreds of millions of dollars to continually add those default search engines with every release. It’d be great if it were the same case for GNOME and Purism. Lol

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Yeah, I just uninstall Settings then. :sweat_smile: Okay, I never used Gnome so far, so I thought it was an application for its own.

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Technically you can uninstall gnome-online-accounts, but that will pull control-centre eds and contacts.

Sorry, I don’t understand this part.

that means gnome-control-centre (which you call settings), gnome-contacts and its backend eds (evolution-data-server) are all dependent on gnome-online-accounts so if you try to uninstall goa the others will be uninstalled due to missing dependency as well.

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Now I understand, thx. Didn’t know what “eds” was and what you tried to say in general (language skills WIP :slightly_smiling_face:).

So in another words we are tied to Google since we are a Gnome based project, isn’t? Forgive my ignorance but I suspect your point is crucial here. Tell me please🤔

I don’t see how one follows from another, you’re only tied to your habits. GOA providers are options, not ties.

What are the consequences of uninstalling gnome-online-accounts, which will pull control-centre eds and contacts as you said? What should we expect from it in terms of OS usability?

Cannot say, I’ve never used (and still don’t use, goa is pulled as eds dependency but control-centre I simply don’t use) those apps/libs on my laptop, but until viable ecosystem appears in adaptive apps world I suspect it will be challenging managing phosh-based mobile platform without it. Not impossible (you still have dbus and gsettings) but challenging. I.e. one may create some shell scripts and attach desktop shortcuts to toggle/change common settings.

Other consequences are missing services provided by EDS - namely contacts management.

Edit: actually, I just checked, and on PureOS (L5 build) it’s not that hooked to the system, goa pulls only several meta-packages. So should be pretty painless to remove.
Here how it looks like with goa removed :slight_smile: As we call it - neutralized :wink:

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You know… It’s a bit like uninstalling FireFox because it offers Google as a search engine option :slight_smile:

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https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/OnlineServicesAPIKeys

Tied yes, but, perhaps, there will be some kind of our way out. Gnome have choice to do whatever thinks is better for their society or something else (ask for someones opinion if they want to, explain their position, etc.) or simply choose not to “Just walk beside me and be my friend.

Thanks guys. It seems like we should just ignore the offer. Like Caliga said, I would like to be offered open source alternatives instead of Google, Facebook and so on, keeping spy services in a hidden spot accesible vía tab or button or a “Other services” text box.

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That’s why I run my own Nextcloud service. I have no need to spy on myself.

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But maybe you just told yourself that to placate yourself, what assurances do you have that you are NOT spying on yourself?!?! :rofl:

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i would simply have GNU project links on each of these “services” and from then on … GOD have mercy :innocent: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :sweat_smile:

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