Comparing specs of upcoming Linux phones

USB-OTG works fine. That post was specifically about exposing user files over USB.

You can set it up manually if you want to play with it, it’s just not integrated into the distro yet.

Thank you for the clarification. I had no doubt that it technically works; I just meant that it’s not in the interface yet, which is what users typically want to know.

I don’t see it discussed here, but does anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming F(x)tec Pro1 X, that they say can ship with Ubuntu Touch installed?

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Actually, I was referring to USB-OTG, wasn’t I? I just want to be able to move files to/from the phone.

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USB-OTG means that the phone is able to work in two roles: as a device connected to a host (like, phone connected to a PC) or a host with a connected device (like, a keyboard connected to the phone). That’s by itself unrelated to moving files.

Most phones use MTP to move files around over USB these days. There’s also USB mass storage, which makes it appear like a regular USB drive. You can set up both by yourself already, but they’re not there by default yet.


Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

did you get a chance to test the Librem-Drive (usb-type-c-stick) connected to the L5 ? i got a couple of those already and i’d like to have my expectations curbed … or not ?

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Price of Pinephone is going to increase by $100.


The Pinephone price only increases in (future) stores, not in the online shop

I had hoped that this indicated that PINE64 was going to pay for more software development, but that apparently isn’t the case according to the blog post. The future PINE64 regional stores will also be online so you aren’t paying for bricks and mortar, but you are paying $100 extra for a normal 1 year warranty (or 2 year warranty in Europe and Australia), shipping in a couple days, and normal customer support with a normal RMA process.

Essentially the $150 price gives you batch production where you preorder and can wait up to 2 months for shipping, a 1 month warranty and zero customer support beyond a guarantee that the hardware works on arrival, and it assumes that you are Linux enthusiast, who can figure out how to install and maintain the software yourself and will use the community forum for support.

I wonder what percentage of PinePhone buyers will go for the $250 retail version over the $150 Community Edition?

Some people think it’s a mistake by Pine64 and that customers will just look for the “best deal” without thinking and then still demand the support. As a solution, “ssh store” was suggested :slight_smile:.

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Also, a little bit of this, maybe:

I think this is a better link: It explains what this OS is.

Also, there is a Mobian port for Librem 5:

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Thanks @fsflover. I added the Mobian port and updated the Sxmo link.

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Fingerprint reader will be combined with wireless charging

6000 mAh, not 5000:

Also booting from USB could be mentioned for Librem 5 with this link:

Not sure if Pinephone can do this too, but probably yes.

Thansk @fsflover. I updated the PinePhone mods and added a “Boot order” row to the table.

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Also note that there is another Necunos phone model, the NE_1, which is targeted towards enterprise customers.

On that page, it refers to their own mobile Linux distribution, aera OS, but in the FAQ below, it is described as necunOS.

Another interesting tidbit is that their Level 3 solution is manufactored in Finland, similar to how the Librem 5 USA, 14, and Key are done in the USA.

Just a word of caution for everyone’s sake here, unlike proof of people getting their Librem 5 phones, using shipping dates, and so on, there has been no word of anyone obtaining either the NC_1 or NE_1. There are no community forums on their website. That said, I would appreciate anyone with information to the contrary to challenge and invalidate my claim.

I saw it . pretty cool device. slide out screen revealing a full qwerty keyboard , XDA logo on the back which can only mean development by them XDA maniacs is going to be redonkulous.

899.00 its an expensive piece of hardware though but what isnt these days . I been looking for a used pickup . better have some bucks if you want something thats not a piece of chit .

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Economical and good value for money, because outsourcing software development to community, adapting its existing A64 board, and selecting older components with existing Linux support.

“Low cost and good value for money, because software development is outsourced to the community (volunteers).”

Linux phone most ready for daily use today with UBports and 14 hours of battery life in standby mode.

This is already pretty outdated. AFAIK it survives 4 days on suspend, which is indeed an advantage, but not for very long I think. Daily use is not really an advantage over Librem 5 anymore in my opinion. If you follow that logic than suspend on Pinephone prevents reliable incoming calls, timers or alarms, whereas on Librem 5 all that works.

Pine64 supports community software development with a $10 donation per phone to the OS projects and the hardware helps projects attract more volunteers.

No longer true since Beta Edition.

Support a company that is transparent, community-based, and doesn’t over-promise in its PR.

Purism indeed often over-promise, but calling it non-transparent is a stretch to say the least.

active community for help

Both phones have an active community now. I would say “larger community” instead.

I would also add the following as the first reason for both phones:

See innovations above.

(and those innovations should be just above “Reasons to buy”, while “Future versions” should be somewhere below)

Librem 5:

Trying to fight planned obsolescence with lifetime software updates, upstreaming code to parent projects for long-term support, using a well-maintained GTK/GNOME stack, replaceable WiFi/BT and cellular modem on M.2 cards, and an SoC manufacturer that promises 10 years of production and contributes to the mainline Linux kernel for future updates.

Should be:

“Trying to fight planned obsolescence with (1) lifetime software updates, (2) upstreaming code, (3) using a well-maintained GTK/GNOME stack, (4) replaceable WiFi/BT and cellular modem, and (5) an SoC manufacturer that promises 10 years of production and contributes to the mainline Linux kernel for future updates.”

Better privacy with accessible hardware kill switches, software switches to turn off GNSS and individual sensors, customized web browser preconfigured for privacy, and optional Librem One web services.

AFAIK Pinephone also has software switches. I think that advantage of Gnome Web over Firefox is questionable. Librem One servies can be used on Pinephone, too. I suggest this:

"Better privacy with accessible hardware kill switches, lockdown mode to turn off GNSS and all sensors, OS preconfigured for privacy, and optional AweSim service in the USA.

Better convergence in the long run

It already has a better convergence, since it’s faster, so “in the long run” is unnecessary.