In Trixie I have had after 1-2 days 50% of calls I could not received. Modem crashes, phone does not ring
A restart does not help. I had to reflash the system to fix this
Maybe a problem of Debian Trixie ?
On PM-OS the phone component up to now works as good as in Pure-OS
Wonder whatâs missing for the camera? Maybe its not just the Librem 5?
The WIki page says camera support is âPartialâ?
Postmarket/Phosh came with my old school Pinephone, what? Three years ago? It was pretty performant on the wimpy PP, but Alpine did drive me nuts on the command line. All my other Linux devices run something based on Debian, so PM/P was just too much friction⌠I ended up using Mobian until the modem died. Mobian was performant, even on the uSD card, and⌠you know, Debian.
I want PureOS to work for me and it does well enough to not rush into another OS, but I will probably try out Mobian on a uSD sometime. It will have to be way better than PureOS to make me switch, though.
Yes, partial 
preview works and taking a picture does not work
I am a user not a guru and so the commandline is not my daily meeting spot. There are only 2 commands to do there regularly:
and thatâs it 
Since yesterday I have running Mobian stable on the L5. toooo short for an really good report.
But GPS, BT, Camera are working and calls can be received and made. All packages installed via apt-get and flatpak are working and have actual versions
work as expected and Calendar + Contacs get their data from in background running evolution from my Groupware server via Carddav/Caldav.
So far so good
More to come
Sweet!
How is Firefox working? I remember it working very well on my Pinephone a couple of years ago.
Up to now I can only report positive
All is running fast and proper.
Energy-consumption as shitty as in PureOS 
For me I have no miss for Crimson any more. If there were no further - undiscovered- bugs I will use Mobian-stable as my daily from now on
Firefox I use very rare. I do not like browsing on such a small display. Therefore I cannot state here something for Firefox
Thanks for Update.
But that proves more or less that your specific PureOS installation was broken in some way. A lot of things that work for you on Mobian are working for me on Byzantium since ever (which is around one year, I know times before were worse).
However, youâre happy now and thatâs the important thing.
Does that include hands free bluetooth?
I agree, but some small screen browsing is necessary⌠which is why I want a good Firefox experience on the L5. Right now, PureOS + @Emma gives me pretty damn good experience â maybe not better than Mobian on Pinephone, but very, very usable, remarkable!
If Mobian is as good on L5 now as it was on PP two years ago â including stable, âhands-freeâ phone calls with seamless audio switching from podcast to phone and back â then Iâm there⌠until PureOS catches up.
Youâre speaking about car usage? Itâs not my use case, so I donât know.
It was not broken,
but Crimson let me sit here with an hopeless outdated Debian, an old Geary which cannot be used for handling a bigger IMAP account and much more problems like this. Also with an outdated flatpak which gives me problems with outdated and no more maintained runtimes of Gnome/Plasma etc.
With Mobian all these problems are gone, I have a maintained Geary, Evolution, Flare and all the other things I need for a phone used as an daily driver. Also receiving and making calls with an configured SIP account are working absolutely flawlessly. Also Geary does what it should and runs stable and usable with my corporate IMAP account
Therefore I am happy with it and for the first time the phone is usable (like in PureOS) AND all the maintained and actual packages from Debian could be used
For me Byzantinum can come or not now. I finally found an alternative with an maintained and up-to-date Debian and I am happy with it.
I guess by all your hundreds of negative posts (at least it feels like so much 
) I may mismatched information. When I was looking for few min ago, I found a post about Crimson with calling issues. So that was maybe the reason. But it does not matter anymore.
Yes, fortunately the way with Byzantinum and the âendless-waiting-forCrimsonâ maybe over
I think mobian/pm-os may be the future. I have lost all hope for Crimson, thats it
Does postmarketOS on the L5 have the same issues with the modem as mobian? Also can anyone tell me about their experience with calls (also what version gnome calls is or what app they are using) and how they are doing calls (anyone using SIP)?
Thanks!
For me Mobian works better than Postmarketos even in the modem stability
Good to know, thank you
Postmarketos doesnât have the mobile data handoff issue like pureos has, and it uses the latest phosh and phone-osk-stub, and very smooth on scrolling(other UIs are sluggish). Uninstalling apps have more freedom than pureos such as If I want to uninstall Geary, somehow in pureos, it will cause a lot of dependencies deleted and give you a warning do as I say text. Pmos has no problem on this. I donât see the reason why not go for the pmos. I also got the pgp working in the pmos as well.
postmarketOS is not a fully-free system, but instead includes unfree firmware in their package manager. So, PureOS has an ethical advantage over postmarketOS.
Also, in my experience, postmarketOS is all over the place with its development, so itâs not as stable as byzantium on Librem 5. Regularly with postmarketOS, an update on the Librem 5 will cause something new to break.
I get the impression that Librem 5 is not a high priority for postmarketOS. Whereas with PureOS, the maintainers specifically have the Librem 5 in mind, so if an update breaks something on the Librem 5, it is more likely to get noticed and addressed if youâre using PureOS.
The advantage of postmarketOS is more up-to-date software. So, if you want a less ethical, more unstable OS, with the latest software available, use postmarketOS.
If you want a more freedom-respecting OS that will break less, but uses old software, choose PureOS.