How to send 90GB of information between users?

[jam]

@hippi

tox can be a thing, previously i factored it out for whatever reason (i guess i saw it as abandonware, but maybe that was something else, or i wanted a pq solution), recently i opened a bunch of tabs for it, but im not yet at a conclusion… that filesender stuff can be utilized too, the more is the better (if their weaknesses are known/solved/acceptable), but i see it also as inferior, relays just fix the internet, those are the future, even if their operator costs will land somewhere, but that holds for the tons of free online ai tools available all around today, but they are there…

the other day i experimented with ipfs, it was so awesome to see my swag on a http gateway after a few new and simple lines in my terminal… (the rest is somewhat off topic) im about seeking means for publishing without the need for installing swag by AverageJoe123 to differentiate my stuff from cave paintings, but i think the updatable directories arent available there, so it would require a different entrance point, and those gateways downgrade it kinda badly… maybe nostr (told here by some1, thx! ) can be my solution if it has good enough means to access it, but thats already a different case than urs, but ipfs can solve ur problem… (running my own server or using git will be considered if i find nothing better… ) otherwise the public presence and the juicy swag for the 1337 can get different solutions…

Thank you for your reply.

I will take another look at syncthing and study this project.

[jam]

Thank you for your reply.

This may be a good project, but as I wrote above, I have other tasks, and I will not be able to use ‘filesender’ for them.

[jam]

@biketool

f we are renting stuff now and our people are normal=lazy and like to save some money a cloud storage can be had for about <$1-$5 for one month/100GB assuming Alice doesn’t already have a subscription or a lifetime plan, Alice can get between 100GB up to exobytes with GUI, web interface, a CLI access, even mount the service as a NAS drive to upload and send a zero knowledge encrypted, publicly sharable, password protected, and possibly anonymous link with an expiration date if desired. Alice can send Bob a link that downloads like everything does in the windows/mac world directly from the browser to HDD or USB flash drive. Now once Alice and Bob are happy with the transfer they can cancel the service at one month. It is even possible to buy this via crypto to keep it anonymous as possible with some services frequently wiping IP access logs etc.
I personally have a few hundred GB on stacked privacy cloud lifetime plans mounted as NAS to a very light privacy VPS, I pay both in crypto. Together they do almost anything I could ever need and I can also use the cloud storage service extra link/share/stream/sync features beyond being my 20GB server’s extended HDD, I recommend it to most power users.

Thank you for your reply.

As I wrote above about the tasks, I need a ready-made solution so that I can offer it to a doctor, teacher, welder, bus driver who does not know what VPS, SSH, etc. are.

[biketool]

This is a great thread as big file transfer is still among the most difficult and mostly unsolved things to do for free or even cheap especially for a non-expert on the internet. It is too bad that sometime in the 90s the decision was made that ISP shell accounts were not important anymore, such a powerful tool was taken from the user’s hands.

(edit)

There are rando services like this https://burritoshare.com/ Who are they, why are they

but I just don’t know what the real deal is, they claim zero knowledge crypto etc, I guess bandwith is cheap and I cant see all of the ads?(thanks ublock and router blocklisting) Maybe they are just super cool dudes, who knows?

(edit2) burritoshare seems to use a Google STUN server to pierce NAT and connect two users, there are a number of different firewall and bandwidth estimators on the site in addition to the transfer portal. It is free as in beer and requires trust-me-bro as much as any project which is unaudited by an outside security researcher or team.

[burritoshare]

Burritoshare creator here:

Its on my personal dedicated server, and cost close to zero dollars to run since 99.999999% of the bandwidth is just p2p over webrtc. Also adding a cli binary next weekend because its much faster (browsers are welcome to throttle tabs that aren’t active. Isn’t as easy as web only, but a lot of people know how to do brew install now.

Out of curiosity, is there any third party stamp of approval that would make you trust it more?

[fossman]

View Our Open Source Code

Explore the code that makes BurritoShare possible
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404 error. Did you move the repo to another forge? Couldn’t find on Gitlab or Codeberg either.

[irvinewade]

@fossman

Explore the code

That doesn’t really work on the server side anyway. Sure, someone can make server side code available for public inspection but there is no way to prove that the code is actually what is being used.

[fossman]

Some people may choose to promote or not promote a service based on ideological reasons, e.g. whether it is freedom software and self-hostable or not. Security and audibility is a separate issue.

[fossman]

@weirdnerd

Maybe also take a look at Magic Wormhole? Seems like it might work for exactly what you’re looking for.

Warp uses it under the hood and while I haven’t tested it with a 90GB file, it appears to be a good and fast Free Software option.

Also other apps here using it: GitHub - magic-wormhole/magic-wormhole.rs: Rust implementation of Magic Wormhole, with new features and enhancements · GitHub

[irvinewade]

@fossman

Security and audibility is a separate issue.

But that really is the issue.

@biketool described the service as “rando” and asked “Who are they? Why are they?” i.e. implying at least scepticism if not distrust.

@burritoshare responded with: what would make you trust it more? e.g. a third party stamp of approval

[fossman]

Sorry, I wasn’t continuing their discussion. Just checking out on my own from today’s post.

[biketool]

My comment about being rando is more that with little effort I found your site and I spent no effort in verification.
Thank you for joining the conversation with us.
If I recall though I had issues transiting NAT, that you have a CLI client makes it easier for me to do testing.
IDK about stamps of approval, but interacting with the community here and elsewhere and having posted the code and protocols seems enough.
Again, my rando comment was more referring to my effort level finding you after a short web search to have something to post to a thread and hoping others would put eyes onto the project that I dont really have a need for but other users without out on the internet server infrastructure certainly do have a use case for.

[tracy]

It used to be “Don’t underestimate the bandwith of a truck full of backup tapes.” Now you can still use a truck, but now it is full of other media.

[burritoshare]

The open source part was a reference implementation of the javascript side. But it had a bunch of bugs in it so i deleted it but forgot to delete the link. Probably can vibe-code a new one though.

Otherwise, i think the more friendly thing will just be make the CLI completely open source. The only thing it interacts with on my server is the connection brokering.

[nerd7473]

90 Gigabits? 11.25GB? Assuming Rsync?

[irvinewade]

@nerd7473

bits

Fixed that for you.

[irvinewade]

@tracy

truck

A truck is troublesome if the data has to go overseas.

[tracy]

Load truck in container ship or C-17 and send through strait of Hormuz?

(Image public domain.)

[irvinewade]

That’s not very timely though - and not very cheap (for 90GB, which is after all just one flash drive or one µSD card).

[nerd7473]

Wait, they could also technically use netcat… But that’d be humorous lol