Apt installations always require sudo, hence the “permission denied” for just your user level - just so that anyone don’t do anything rash, or haven’t thought it though.
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sudo is required.
Some people don’t post with that prefix but in most use cases with apt, it is required
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I just figured that out when I looked at the line instead copy-paste.
Still errors though. The error reads
E: Unable to locate package phosh-antispam
Too bad the Store still doesn’t work. At least unavailable is reliable.
So, another day shot to again.
Can’t get it from FlatPak( I think it was), but clicking the install only took me to the deceased Pure OS Store.
Does anyone know a way of installing phosh antispam (anti-spam or anti spam) that doesn’t *require any additional downloads like GTK#.# and other problems,
~S
*No one should have to go through all that unless they are hobbyists and have time to waste.
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Sounds like, from the error message, that you don’t have the repo source available where it’s located. And it dawns on me that it’s probably in the byzantium backports, which you may not have enabled for yourself. It may not have been updated to work on the normal byz repository but probably will - some day (or maybe to crimson). It’s a bit of a choice to make, if you want to use the unofficial repo source, if you don’t want to build the app from source. Unfortunate.
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The thing that stands out to me is the Drive letter “E:” I don’t have a drive “E”.
WTHeck! 10^ ← not my preferred expletive right now.
Is it’s location on a map or something?
OK, I give up, what the is a “byzantium backports”?
what the is a "byz repository?
I don’t know what in blazes a “byzantium backport” is. Just how do you think I would want to build the app. The app is there, the site showed. It didn’t say download the parts and figure it yourself. This is the sort of 
that should be in the ads.
Hey - Dev! “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”… George Santayana - 1905 work The Life of Reason
I’ve see that proven often times.
This really hurts,
I so hoped that something useful could be installed. This thing is a 180° from the ads.
~ 
rrrgggg!
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Well, I suppose I expected that you had noticed the other conversations in the forum where byzantium (byz) backports (in this case shorthand for “additional repository of more updated software that’s not the official PureOS repository where everything else comes from”) were mentioned. It’s a way to keep some stuff current and working since software updates, due to tangled inter-dependencies, get borked every now and then, or just not offering the latest, when time passes, as PureOS version named Byzantium is getting a bit old (as it’s based on Debian 10 - and Debian already having more current versions [hence the other threads for Crimson]). More official explanation here and more here.
Don’t worry, you can always do a web search if a term is unfamiliar - I’ve looked up stuff at least thrise just today that I wasn’t sure of. L5 is… “an adventure” for sure 
Anyways, if you want or dare to add the backports repo as instructed as a source you want/trust/need enough, have a look at the thread from around January. As you can see, things can go wrong too. If you’ve done jumpdrive and/or flashing, I’d say it’s a bit easier, but I’d do first a jumpdrive connection and get a disc partition image (using external linux computer’s Discs app) as a backup, so you’ll always be able to return to exactly the same state you were. Just to be on the safe side (and it’s good practice even if something else went wrong with the phone). If this sounds too daunting, don’t do it, just wait for the official repo (or Crimson) to get updated. Know that there really is an app that you were missing (instead of it remaining just a wish - if that’s any consolation).
I have no idea what “E” is, so we have that in common. Maybe “error”. But that’s not the relevant part of that message.
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Yes E: there means Error.
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It is true, phosh-antispam not exists in the original Byzantium repo, but it can be easily rebuilt (backported) from Bookworm. Alternatively you can just download the package that I rebuilt by myself here and run this command:
$ sudo apt install ./phosh-antispam_3.0.0-1_arm64.deb
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Unfortunately, when I find the definition of a term, it too has unknown terms and/or acronyms that need understanding.
I just tried the PureOS Store again, and it’s of no use. Only front end loads, the subs have nothing to show.
I will peruse the ‘backports’ discussion for a safe software store.
Is the stuff via backports safe? i.e. Meets PureOS approved safe?
I read up on jumpdrive. I read it like it was a process of creating a image file or something. My search points out ‘jumpdrive’ is a USB stick, thumb drive, and other names for the same thing. Something to backup to.
I put my faith in Purim listing trusted software.
Now off to read (uggg)
Thanks
~s
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Jumpdrive is software. The software is downloaded to your host computer (desktop / laptop) - which needs to be running a suitable distro and version.
You put your phone in serial download mode.
You run Jumpdrive on your host computer.
The effect is that the disk or disks of your phone are exposed as disk or disks on the host computer. Hence you can, for example, mount the phone’s disk on the host computer in order to fix minor configuration problems and you can, for example, do a complete image backup or restore of the phone’s disk to or from a file on the host computer.
Note that this works no matter how badly borked the contents of your phone’s disk are - presuming of course that you made a backup image before the contents became borked. So you could then restore the backup image even though your phone is, for example, unbootable.
I don’t speak for Purism but …
I would suggest: no. Use at own risk.
If you want PureOS-approved then you would have to flash an advance copy of crimson but that comes with instability and immaturity risks. Some things are known not to work yet. Some things are still to be discovered as not working yet.
If you value safety and stability above all other things then you would have to stick to byzantium and be patient until new functionality comes along, whenever that might be.
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OK, but JumpDrive is a registered trakemark of Lexar for their USB flash drives. Hence confusion can easily ensue.
I would presume that most long time L5 owners would understand from context, but…
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If you want PureOS-approved then you would have to flash an advance copy of crimson but that comes with instability and immaturity risks.[/quote]
I thought the stuff in Purism Store (not to be confused with ‘Shop’ would only show programs that were safe.
Since the ‘PureOS Store’ shelves are empty, must I need to wait until Crimson is available and then wait some more for new and approved software is available? I’m sure some software will be available that can be trusted as safe, but that could be years.
Well “stability” would be nice, privacy is the goal with this isn’t it, so I would like to find some useful software but it looks like there isn’t any right now.
SIDENOTE: For @irvinewade
Just tried the “PureOS Store” it’s still doesn’t load anything from the sub-category’s.
And while I was looking for a suitable store, shop, I came across many Puri pages with 404s along with the page’s template. For starters, https://puri.sm/store and Google, won’t let me use store.puri.sm and changes it to [pure.store](https://pureos.store/).
Address used in image is https://puri.sm/store
Google. Hard to live without it, illegal to shoot it.
~s
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PureOS store works fine for me…
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The front end opens OK. It’s what’s behind doors Create, Work, Play etcetera that appear with “Editor’s Choice” being blank as with the rest of the boxes below it. Sample pic:
What is your rough location? East/west US/Canada. I’ve had the Store work before but only a few times. Frustrating. Machines are getting pretty smart these days so maybe it was something I said, should have said, or didn’t say. 
Too, if you wouldn’t mind, is my pic too big, or too small or OK? I know different screens are different sizes. I might be using pics too big/or…
~s
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Works fine in Central U.S. TZ, proxying out to different locations still works fine if done in that manner as well.
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Thanks nerd7473.
I’ve had this problem since day one and still no one knows why.
I just realized I took my Topic - - Off Topic so I’ll stop with the Store being in need of Intervention 
and back on topic.
~s
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I can get to both
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Do you remember telling me when I don’t understand terminology used, to search it out? Well, I find I’m constantly looking up stuff a customer should NOT EVER have to involve themselves in. And, most of it is some techy person showing off their level of geekinese.
I thought adding the Whitelist would be the one thing I can use in this version of the L5. NOT! Like everything L5, it takes a phone engineer and expert that speaks Linux to find the software parts and pieces and another to put it together, and a understanding of what to install first.
If any company wants to sell privacy phones, they should learn the K.I.S.S. method of selling to phone users, not as if their only audience are Linux techs.
This trip in to Whitelisting was another long journey to disappointment, again.
CONCLUSION: ?
Wait for a suitable OS for the L5 that could, according to Puri history - take many years.
A lot of money for a broken toy.
To whomever is head kahuna - K.I.S.S. or go bankrupt. I see the direction it’s headed. If I need a cell phone, it won’t be another L5.
~s
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At the risk of sounding like an algorithm and going more off tangent from the original topic, “you may like”: this blog (they are a bit long reads - way too long to paste here - but have some interesting points) and a concept titled Rot Economy, which can be seen to be seeping into all product development (although I’d argue that there are other factors at play too when it comes to linux/open and small companies). Quoting a more paraphrased source:
…tech companies have “used a combination of monopolies and a cartel-like commitment to growth-at-all-costs thinking to make war with the user.” He argues these companies are actively degrading the digital tools and platforms we once loved, all in service of endless growth.
“Everything must grow, at all costs, at all times, unrelentingly, even if it makes the technology we use every day consistently harmful.” This pursuit of infinite expansion leaves users to grapple with services designed not to empower or delight them… but to extract as much money, data, and attention as possible. The result? Platforms that are actively hostile to the people they claim to serve.
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I cannot continue reading stuff I can’t understand, nor want to.
I guess I’ve been spoiled by Windows. Locate, Install, Use. No need for learning something that could be simple, but IMO, is built by techs, for techs in a language with too many new words for the same old things.
Contrary to the visit counter (those # links beside each link to indicate how many clicked the link) I did go to the site that reminded me - why am I reading all the when it’s abundantly clear this L5 is not ever going to be of any dependable use.
Thanks JR-Fi for your taking the time,
~s
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