This is not how I understand GNU/Linux phone at all. If you actually know what GNU/Linux is, you will understand that if your device supports it, it can automatically support anything else, because GNU/Linux is FLOSS.
I understand it too, no worries. I just said “it sounds like”.
I’m thinking about doing this same poll on the PINE64 forum. I suspect that we might get a very different response there. Considering how many people want to include “GNU” or “libre” in the name, I suspect that most people on this forum are ideologically closer to the FSF than the OSI.
The principal question is whether you want to emphasize that the Librem 5 converges the PC and smartphone or whether you want to emphasize that it runs on free software. The latter is winning in the poll so far.
The question I have is what else can be called a “GNUphone” or a “libre phone”. Is the PinePhone a GNUphone when it contains proprietary firmware for the RealTek WiFi/BT in the main file system?
Is the Volla Phone a GNUphone when it is sold with both Android and Ubuntu Touch and it requires proprietary firmware in the main file system for the WiFi, Bluetooth, cellular modem and GNSS. The Ubuntu Touch installation uses Qualcomm’s Android drivers through libhybris.
How about the Cosmo Communicator, which is only sold with Android preinstalled, but the company has instructions for installing Debian on its web site? It uses a MediaTek processor that requires blobs and will never get mainline Linux support (whereas the Snapdragon in the Volla Phone will get it after a couple years).
When I install LineageOS or Ubuntu Touch on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 7, does that become a GNUphone or a libre phone? I assume that when I reinstall Android, it will stop being a GNUphone or libre phone, but it probably also stops being a “pcphone”, since its software doesn’t allow the full functionality of a PC.
Valid questions. I’m curious to hear/see what the poll results there are.
Due to the HW setup it mainly has smart phone functionality. With L5 the convergent aspect is the main feature.This is a different category all together and, imho, needs to be reflected in the device name. The de device name also needs to be easy to pronounce (catchy), therefor names as compone, coco and handy are preferable.
right, as long as you use android kernel/bsp/hybris it’s an android phone. But the same phone may inadvertently become this handheld computer type once it’s fully reverse-engineered and mainlined.
Maye I will try to generate a anagram by permuting the beginnings of words like libre, Linux, desktop, phone, mobile, portable, carriable, pocket etc. and see if there are some useful results. Probably most of the resulting words will sound artificial like LiMoDe or so. Some people might like such a word and others not.
Also maybe we should call such a device a hybrid or include that word because it could be defined as a hybrid of a desktop or general purpose computer and a phone. There was a time when phones were no computers. Desktop phone might make people think orbs phone on a desk… thinking in progress.
The reason that I like free phone is that it is simple, and sort of “similar” to smart phone. Personally I don’t care that free is ambiguous, many of our words are and it is just part of language. People can navigate this and will not believe that they will get a free phone without paying anything.
Yeah, and for the Librem 5, I think that I’ll just call it my L5.
As a member of the L5 Society, I find that ambiguous.
We are deciding how to call the class of devices, not this single device. We want to find a word which emphasizes their main advantage(s).
I think the main advantage for me is the freedom.
Same device(s) can belong to several different classes. Remember your Venn diagrams:
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the best part is that while washing hands you can’t be on faceborg at the same time … or can you ? raising-eyebrows ^^
Puddit (Put It Where You Want It) is the song, that I like very much, written by Al Jarreau and Joe Sample.
Right now, I’m reading Artemis by Andy Weir. Artemis is a city on the moon about 50 years in the future. They call their hand terminals “Gizmos”.
Kind of swings, doesn’t it?