Librem 5 record uptime

Hardware Librem 5
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Is there any reason you keep the container running when not needed? waydroid session stop. “Force quitting every single Android application” doesn’t sound like a very convenient or effective method :wink:

There’s also a way to configure it to stop the container automatically when no Waydroid window is open, though I do it manually to be sure it’s done anyway.

I’m generally not having problems with the modem nor WiFi that can’t be solved with power cycling them. In cases when I do, it’s usually a deeper problem with the kernel, but kernels 6.6.40 and now 6.6.83 have been rock solid for me so far.

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Hum, as I’m usually not able to start charging my phone while it’s turned on, I often have to shut down the phone, plug the charger and turn it back on. So in general my uptime is a couple of hours at most :frowning:

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Because of heat? Is there some process going haywire with the CPU perhaps? What about system suspend? These days my phone rarely overheats, usually only when I use it for an extended time in the summer while in a poorly climate-conditioned train or something like that :smiley:

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No, it seems it doesn’t notice the charger at all, the red light doesn’t come up.

I wrote about that in another post last December.

It’s not the heat because when it refuses to charge because of heat it at least starts blinking the red light. And anyway nowadays in central Europe it’s sometimes just a couple degrees above freezing and the phone is cold. And sometimes when it’s charging properly, if I unplug and replug the charger immediately, it doesn’t resume charging until next power cycling.

I tried suspending and plugging the charger when it’s suspended, but it doesn’t register either.

It all started happening after that day me and my Librem 5 got caught into the rain, USB port facing up in my raincoat pocket, so I suspect the USB board suffered water damage. DP alt mode is also mostly broken. And even when it does charge, it needs something like one hour to increase the battery level by 10% if the phone is turned on, screen off, doing nothing.

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Do this then:

Knowing how the phone reacts to these scenarios, I’ll likely be able to give you some advice to make your life with that phone easier.

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Ever since (fixed) LTE connectivity lost very often - #17 by pi-rp my need to reboot my phone is virtually gone.
Kernel updates and I reboot. Occasional wonkiness (phone gets in a weird state sometimes where apps take forever to respond or open, but this is really rare) and I reboot. Battery dies, and I reboot :slight_smile:

But that’s it. The phone stays on many days at a time now.

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Oh sweet summer child…

I have a desktop icon that calls a script to stop waydroid session, then sleep a bit, then stop the waydroid service. I realize my phone is not going into suspend, so I try to restart and I see the dreadful “WAYDROID IS INHIBITING IDLE” message, and I want to jump off the window.

Then I try experimenting force quitting every single Android application and I still see the same problem.

Then I take my phone out of my bag. It is warm. 30% of the battery are gone. Then I fire terminal, launch top, run ps aux, and I conclude that there’s nothing out of the ordinary, so why is my phone warm?

Then I start troubleshooting it, dig into DBus shenanigans, curse the fates, and realize that I just hate modern software.

I hate that my stupid camera exposure application, that has literally 400 lines of C code and does less than 20 math operations on demand, launching literally 5 GTK Widgets, compiles to a multimegabyte binary and takes 15MB of RAM to run and takes 8 seconds to launch.

Then I look into the nightmares of systemds, dbuses and all the stupid crap that is everywhere, and why the hell does it take gigabytes of RAM to boot to desktop.

Then I turn my HP 712 60 MHz on, with nextstep 3.3, and I realize it is the most responsive computer I own. I launch a few text editor windows, spreadsheet, 3-4 SSH sessions, get my actual work done and hate every single operating system and computer released after year 2000.

Then I wonder whether it is too much to task that MY computer does what it is supposed to do. Open the stupid program, run it. Close ALL child processes when I am done. No telemetry. No background daemons. No bizarre interprocess communications. Be a tool. No “We are getting your computer ready”. Who is we? You are a stupid computer.
Give me a proper progress bar, show me what processes are running and what files are being written. Stop trying to pretend to be a stupid human. Be a tool. Let me do my job. Don´t load 10MB of code to show me 1KB of the text I actually want to read.

Then I realize what absurd it is that a phone with 4x 1.5GHz cores and 3GB struggles sometimes to scroll a few lines of text with a image, and I think: well, it is really not the phone.

Then I feel like moving to a cave and throwing every single electronic appliance I own out of the window, for disrespecting my time, my money and the environment.

and ugh, rant over.

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It is very similar to my case… When after a week of active use together with Nexdock I lost the ability to screen sharing and normal charging. Now I have only one charger that works with one orientation with the special usb-c cable :smile: .

Hopefully, I just received the USB-C board for repair that I asked from Purism support and going to replace on this weekend.

Another issue that limits my uptime is the display problem. However, it looks like I managed to fix it by configuring i2c restore routine in the dts file. So, I hope already on the next week I have no reason for reboot my phone :pray:

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The Android image I’m using is still from before idle inhibition has been added there, so I had avoided this bug entirely. I get it that it’s frustrating, though it’s not necessary to reboot to drop that inhibitor - restarting phosh session would be enough. But now it’s best to simply apply the recent patch for phoc :slight_smile:

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That happened to me as well, so I got the usb board replaced

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What patch? The only fix I know is the improvement you mentioned in the other thread.

It has actually crossed my mind to restart phosh, but then I was afraid of just ending up with a black screen and having to start it again (or reboot) via serial console.

What’s your strategy to dealing with Waydroid upgrades? I upgrade whenever images show up. Another problem that started happening a while back is corrupted audio. For example, notification sounds are distorted, like if something with the audio sync or a mismatch in sampling frequency. It sounds like if the speaker is under water. If I start playing audio for a minute or two, then it clears up. It also works for recording audio (tested via Signal call).

Perhaps I should be conservative with upgrading Waydroid and only do it if required.

Your uptimes are very inspiring! =))

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I meant idle-inhibit: Fix mapped property and potential uninhibit (!668) · Merge requests · World / Phosh / phoc · GitLab - haven’t checked, but chances are it should be backportable.

No real strategy. I’m just still on an Android 10 image from the time I’ve been working on making Waydroid work on Librem 5 at all, because there’s no easy upgrade path (signing keys are different) and I’ve been too lazy to set everything up from scratch again. I should do it one day… but not today :laughing: My Waydroid usage is minimal, so having it outdated hasn’t bothered me enough so far.

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Always, since I never restart.

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I don’t know the longest … it’s about months, not days … Only restarting on updates.

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What about when you reflash?

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Technically reflashing is not restarting.

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Well you power it down and then turn it back on

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Sure, that is a normal part of my workflow:

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Yes but if you run the command uptime it be ‘always’, it will be from when you last reflashed, which in the spirit of OP would be when most people reboot. (ie. from a bug or problem that requires rebooting or reflashing)

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Well right now my Librem 5 USA is turned off with all of the hardware kill switches toggled downwards, while I am currently using my Librem 14 for more productive tasks. Later on this evening, I will probably turn the Librem 5 USA on with the Wi-Fi hardware kill switch toggled upwards, use Shortwave to connect to a Internet radio station, and play some music in the background to stay productively focused.

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