Librem 6 Look Ahead Wishlist

Better as accessory that can be clipped to the phone. The reason for my first smartphone was the touch keyboard. I hate physical keyboards with too little keys and I love my custom Squeekboard.

Also keep in mind that a physical keyboard would only support US-layout (or maybe one or two more) and many customers living outside the US with many different standard keyboard layouts.

I haven’t had the time but since I started this whole discussion it is on me to parse all your comments, and I will, to tabulate and maybe graphically represent all the user feedback so there is sortof a frequency of mentions for certain hardware features.

What I am wondering is whether bluetooth could run independently, have a independent chip from Wifi, maybe that could reduce some of the issues we have seen in the future and possibly provide reduced power use. It would be nice if the bluetooth chip would support very lower power devices and protocols such as ANT to allow it to talk to sensors and devices used for example when exercising or bicycling where with bluetooth on I want 10 hours or runtime.

We already have WPAN LE for such things as ANT is a proprietary, also we already have WLAN LE too so you need perform this technologies, moreover there are tons tons of features and bug fixes on the upcoming gnu crimson.

For crimson one of the main Debian innovations was having proprietary drivers included, why not free if packaged these simply could be enabled by the user if there is a need for that technology. I am not sure about the required certification part though and whether Purism would have to get their device certified to be ANT compliant, I mean it is a good standard and technically there is nothing better for low power, the WPAN LE, WLAN LE does it offer similar performance is one question, the other are there any fitness devices that support WPAN LE, WLAN LE is the other.

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That would not be practical using the L5 while moving around.
I see your point about the language layouts, however the current solution (squeekboard) is far from ideal.
Using the L5 in landscape mode together with squeekboard is impossible.
My nokia 9300i screen is so much smaller, has far lower resolution and yet there is far more readable info on the screen compared to the L5.
Also, I can enter data and still see other relevant objects at the same time.

This is in my experience mostly caused by displaying the keyboard on the same screen as the opened app.
The soft. keyboard needs too much precious space from the needed screen.

I don’t see your point here. The keyboard could be designed to clip permanently on phone. It’s just a matter of design that should feel good at the end.

I would not say “impossible”, but I totally agree with your point that it takes far too much space. We could address this issue on different ways:

  • Reducing vertical size of Squeekboard for maximum 3 rows of key buttons (we have more horizontal space, so there is no big deal in reorganizing it a bit). It also makes no sense how Squeekboard decides to take the space. 125% screen scale makes Squeekboard less huge than 100% screen scale.
  • Hiding top-panel and bottom-panel while using Squeekboard could give a lot of space. The application has even without Squeekboard less space compared to portrait mode, because panels take twice the amount of pixels. If you push F11 button inside any app, you will see how much more space we could get.
  • Maybe scaling resolution.

If I watch pictures of Nokia 9300i, there is not so much screen space at all and that can be easily achieved with L5 touch screen only.

My suggestion would be to reach out to consumers and ask them what they want - - expect in a L5. Might be better off ripping out the camera and make better use of the space. As it is, I think camera will always be seen as a Etch-A-Sketch attached to an otherwise useful phone.

Pricing:
At $1,300.00 USD I would expect something slightly better than the other most recent phones. At a patriotic $2,200.00 USD one could get 2 of the newer stalker phones.

It appears that the difference between the Liberty phone, and L5 is about $900.00+ U$D for labour. Maybe Puri might consider a

IMO:
The best selling feature of the phone is not the device itself, it’s a matter of which does one consider the most important; a phone with built in stalkers, or L5 with built-in privacy. The latter we give up a little bit of quality and quantity of ‘apps’ and 3rd party support.

Side note:
From the ads, to forums, to my short experience with the L5, I see the Puri target market is mainly inside the borders of the US. Liberty phone is the US flag-waving thingy. Universal, non-political no borders approach might sell more.
Why not? If Puri targeted just India, population 1.4 billion verses the US alone w/ population of 340+ million. Million verses billion!
This is a great time - people are getting the message that their rights to privacy are being pimped out to any bidder.

Just thinking about the “Look Ahead Wishlist”
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Sometimes I want to use my phone as a navigator and I need an option to enable GNSS when all other kill switchs is off.

Also, some programs could theoretically track me using GNSS, so it’s good to be able to disable GNSS.

Say “Map Navigator”

This wish can not be, but it will safe to enable the mic/cam hks to enable gnss then leave modem/wlan hks off.

Hmm. I had forgotten that GNSS was disabled when all three HKSs are off on the Librem 5.

Yes. But I would say that if you don’t trust the programs — then you’re already effectively compromised. That said, I suppose GNSS should be in the same category as “microphone” (i.e. “receive only”) and should have its own off switch.

Thanks!

Always fair to suggest that. If they were to reach out to this customer then having a camera for taking photos, even if it’s not a fabulous camera, is something that I want and expect.

Also, as another post pointed out, you pretty much need a camera these days even if only for QR codes.

Yes. That’s the USA Edition. But there’s always the vanilla edition for marketing outside the US.

Why??

Given that this topic is look ahead wishlist, it’s a perfectly reasonable wish to have and I am not aware of any technical reason why it couldn’t be done.

However, if I recall correctly, Purism staff have previously expressed the idea that 4 kill switches would be too much, too difficult to use.

Would a 4th kill switch, one for the GNSS, be on my wishlist? No.

While lockdown mode (all switches off) suggests that a kill switch for the GNSS is technically possible, note that lockdown mode also disables sensors, so it is not equivalent to killing the GNSS. So, for example, auto-rotate wouldn’t work any more.

Since this is a blue sky topic, as @Captain_Morgan has already suggested, open sourcing the firmware for one or both of the modem or WiFi modules would be good. That could then in principle free up a kill switch, which could then be redeployed for an explicit GNSS kill switch.

If you reasonably believe that the software on your phone has been compromised and hence that only a hardware kill is fully safe then it is not safe to enable mic/cam even if you disable modem/WiFi - because compromised software could record via the mic/cam, saving the recording locally, for later transmission once some kind of network is available.

Is that a realistic threat model for most mobile phone users? Probably not. Is that a realistic threat model for some users? Most definitely.

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I mean that right now in evergreen is not possible because not have a dedicated gnss hks just Lockdown Mode, of course add a gnss hks is possible in next Rv.

Well enabling cam/mic hks and disabling permit to cam/mic it only i can see

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You can remove the modem, then switch its kill switch to on position and use GNSS like this.

Or enable modem hks and disable the modem i
in settings

  1. 67mm total width or smaller (the current Librem 5 is too big for me)
  2. 135mm total height or smaller
  3. more powerful CPU
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It can be use for CDMA + GSM unlocked. Water proof. 3 camera as for professional user. Can be repairable. Can work with 5G and 6G.

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3 cameras where you just can use one camera, because it’s software cannot handle the calculation to combine 3 pictures. :wink: I think first we need to get software to a more “professional” state, where autosettings are not just presets. Even the current L5 can make much better photos with improved software.

I understand your wish, so nothing against it. But before you make yourself false expectations/hopes.

And if you really want professional photos, take a real photo camera with professional optic lenses. Modern smartphones are making good pictures, but no professional ones. And if it has to be Open Source hardware and firmware, take an AXIOM Beta Compact (however, it’s expensive).

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