Librem Week#1 Running Applications


#13

Well you still can use the good old USB. :wink: (+ you use less power)


#14

The main requirement is to have enough RAM for the images you are loading into it. 1GB or more is luxury compared to some of the older hardware I remember running it on!


#15

I don’t use GIMP much, does the software have auto filtering/enriching features? Maybe to automatically brighten or make pictures look better? If so this could be a great thing to post process pictures taken with the camera.


#16

I haven’t used GIMP much myself as it is a little more involved than what I’ve needed in the past. Since it doesn’t have a mobile UI at this time, something else will be needed to edit photos directly on the Librem 5. If none of the upstream apps we’re bringing along will do then I’m sure someone in the community will make it happen.


#17

Apparently I am the only one disappointed by these videos. All they are showing is already existing software working on a smaller screen size. But that’s not really news to people familiar with gnome. I really hope they step up their game and show us what THEY worked on. I also don’t understand why they are using a Dev Kit for these videos and not a Librem 5. Considering they are planning to start shipping soon I assume the phones are already assembled.


#18

Well, some of your assumptions are wrong.

Yes, some apps are unmodified, and it’s great that they still work fine.
Some have been adapted (by Purism) with libhandy (by Purism) to work on that screen size.
It’s the best approach to adapt existing software, and from the beginning that’s what they said they’d do.
Also, I’m pretty sure some of the more interesting apps have yet to be revealed.
Why would they start with the cream of the crop?

Another point: We have seen Week #1. Week #2 continues (Twitter, Mastodon Social, or here in the timeline)
And I consider the possibility that they intend to continue this for some more weeks, maybe until the end of July, when the sale will end. That could be 28, 35 or even 42 (which would be prefect :wink:) apps / videos, which is pretty awesome.

I don’t think Purism will receive the final phones before August, I rather assume September.
What they might have by now is a production sample that they test before giving the final go.
And if that is the case, I guess we’ll see it in the coming days :grinning:


#19

If the phones had already been completed, they would already be sent. But it does not bother me. This phone develops from scratch with its software a small team of developers. This is a tremendous job. It’s not something to make a cup of coffee. And so, I respect this team for what they do and trust them. I do not ask “Where is my phone?” I just wish them success.


#20

If you look here, there are a few older videos, including one of Todd Weaver getting a call using the dev kit.


#21

Akira which is not gimp but something which tries to go more in a designing and photoshop direction plans to implement libhandy at some time:


#22

Same. The only thing that worries me is that a stylus is being used in all the videos. How easy to use are the keyboard and apps going to be with my sausage digits?


#23

That’s a plus! The display works with a stylus :wink:
But it is must likely used because it looks better than a hand hiding most content.
And as the display is likely not smaller as your current, the size of the keyboard should also not be a concern.


#24

for sausage fingers the best solution is to use HiDpi scaling coupled with smaller fonts in order to compensate…


#25

Super weird all-around.
They are supposed to ship in a month or two and still don’t have a housing prototype?
In the coming weeks, they are supposed to be doing fine OS polishing. Not shopping for hardware and everything.


#26

I think that the reason for him using a stylus is partly of what @Caliga said that it’s easier to see the display so his hand doesn’t cover the camera.

But another reason is also because some of the things shown such as the game OpenTTD is not optimized for touchscreens so the buttons are really small. For the GTK/KDE apps most things should be fine though as those apps can scale automatically depending on resolution and screen size.


#27

You cannot add a “housing prototype” to the dev-board.
I don’t think they’re shopping for hardware. Either the phone prototype has a problem that needs fixing, or they just heavily test it behind the scenes to be 100% certain that it can go into production.

In case they’ll reveal a production prototype in the coming days, I guess you would not assume that it just came with FedEx and then they publish a video the same day.

The OS polishing is, of course, also happening.
They have hardware devs and software devs.
The repo lists 12 updates for the Librem 5 during the last 60 minutes (as of writing).

Sometimes you can even glimpse behind the scenes (video):


#28

I’m curious now, does that mean the phone will come with a stylus? I’m assuming a charger, can I also safely assume headphones? I’d like to think beginning of August we’ll get more information. Shipping possibly beginning of September simply based on the pre-order discount ending July 30 and is entirely speculative.

Maybe they haven’t released more information because they’re also needing to finalize packaging as well. I can’t imagine they’ll just toss it in a bag and ship out a plain box. They’re also doing documentation, videos, and collaborating with the open source community so I’m sure they’re pretty busy. I can’t wait though, it’s going to be awesome having a phone that doesn’t spy on me.


#29

Unless they’ll give us more than promised.


#30

I meant “fine polishing only”. Didn’t say it right.
Instead they are still figuring out final modems , battery size, storage, RAM, cameras, display , etc.
When I say “figuring out” - don’t have any of those components announced.
To be clear, I’m ok with waiting for a complete package and fully functional phone. The issue here is their estimated shipping. It doesn’t make sense. Unless, they really put it all together last minute and ship a 1/4 baked device :slight_smile:
I mean, you need a long thorough testing once all hardware is put together. Especially for basic phone functions and connectivity.
I have a few friends, whom I recommended to pre order and they are still hesitant, because they don’t know what they are getting. You kinda wanna know how compatible is with your carrier, signal strength - reliability, battery life, screen brightness, cameras, exact size of device, BT version, etc.
They are all done w iOS and Android, but no point switching if not meeting their basic needs. And I know that people here think that “it’s not for everyone”. I can agree to an extent, but it’s not advertised as such.
Kinda reminds me of Google’s release of Nexus 6 line.


#31

I agree and I don’t really support how they advertise it. Well, it’s the vision they have, and that’s good.
I can imagine it could soonish be good enough to be used by non-tech-savvy parents, aunts and brothers. But they’d still need us to not feel overwhelmed. OTOH, they also need us for Android, right? :wink:

They already said they will soon announce the missing details. Either they wait for the (in their opinion) perfect marketing opportunity, or there is that one detail (e.g. no final confirmation by a supplier) that holds them back. We’ll soon know.

I wouldn’t worry about that just right now.
You have 25 more days to wait for substantial updates so your friends can decide before the sale ends.


#32

@Caliga Holy, that lockscreen looks sooo good!!!