Same problem here in India too. E version doesn’t support all the needed frequency bands.
Needed in India 3G/4G:
B1 (2100), B8 (900 GSM), B3 (1800 +), B5 (850), B40 (TD 2300)
7100E provides these but except B5 (850).
7100A definitely not suitable for me either.
I suggest to include IN (INDIA) in post title too.
Hi @lonewolf, I had a look at https://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=India. According to that page the 850MHz Band 5 is only used for 4G, so you would have full coverage for 3G and all but the low band for 4G. That is the same situation as Optus/Vodaphone in Australia with the European modem. I don’t know about India but in Australia, 3G is the most common and important for coverage. It’s obviously not ideal to be missing any band, especially a low band (which apparently has greater range) but at least having all the other 4G bands and full 3G coverage it might be ok in your country?
Thanks for responding. Even though 3G does work here but carriers are least concerned about 3G service. As they are increasing the availability and quality of 4G; 3G is being turned into shit. I have tried 3 carriers already, once i switch to 3G following things I notice:
3G used to work extremely well before the 4G race.
2G (2G works extremely well) and 4G (works extremely well than 3G) are only options I have.
I finally had time to watch the interview with Nicole Faerber, which was really interesting. I didn’t realise that the modem will be removable. If that’s the case in the final phone, that would be amazing! Here’s a link to that part of the video.
https://youtu.be/KiItd6I3VHU?t=1074
So hopefully this issue can be resolved after the phone release if necessary. It also potentially extends the lifespan of the device which is great!
Good work. +1 potential Aussie backer! (unsure what to make of anti-encryption laws… still, better than alternatives, obviously)
Pretty sure about that. They’ll make use of it to custom-taylor the phones before shipping.
Also, note that there will likely be 4 different modems with driver support initially.
Sorry, I saw your posts but I haven’t had much time to get on here lately.
Awesome 
Thanks for mentioning that, I had no idea that was a thing.
Oh, that’s a good point.
I wasn’t aware of that, so thanks for pointing it out. Although, after checking out the specs sheet, unfortunately it looks like the PLS8-US and PLS8-E don’t offer any better compatibility in Australia than the SIMCom 7100A or 7100E. It’s good to know that they were still looking at other options so that they choose the best available modems for security, freedom and compatibility at the time of purchase.
from the email they just sent out regarding the CPU and the delay, it seems like the PLS8 is finalised.
looks like @zero is right, none of the PLS8 configurations are any good for Australia.
It’s worth pointing out that the most important telco here is Telstra, and the vast majority of users are on their network or an MVNO that uses their network - I’m on Optus and the coverage just isn’t as good as friends on Telstra. Vodafone can effectively be ignored as they have almost no marketshare.
The PLS8-E should be ok for Optus/Vodafone though right? I mean it’s not ideal missing the 4G low band but I think it’ll be fine for me.
Well I’m really hoping there will be a modem available in the future that will support all the needed bands. I still think it’s awesome that the modem can be swapped out though!
Will it work in Brazil?
I think it really depends on who you are with. And it is also more about coverage than whether it will work at all or not, as long as you have any mandatory bands covered.
You can check something like frequencycheck or have a look on your carrier’s website and maybe contact them about any mandatory frequencies/bands that are needed. It might be worth trying to find some coverage maps too if you can.
PLS8-E:
LTE (20,8,3,7,1); 3G (8,3,1); 2G Dual Band
PLS8-US:
LTE (17,5,4,2); 3G (5,4,2); 2G Quad Band
Those are the bands covered for the European and US modems. If I understand correctly, the dual band 2G for the PLS8-E would cover 900MHz and 1800MHz and the quad band for the PLS8-US would cover all the needed GSM frequencies. Sorry that’s not a yes or no, but I hope that helps a bit.
Hello @zero ! Thanks for the tips.
I looked for more information about frequencies used in Brazil and pasted ahead. Would you please take a look and help me to find out if the L5 modem is able to work with these configurations?
Identfied UIT frequencies
450-470 MHz
698-960 MHz
1.710-2.025 MHz and 2.110-2.200 MHz
2.300-2.400 MHz
2.500-2.690 MHz
3.400-3.600 MHz
Information extracted from: http://www.teleco.com.br/areasc.asp
Here you have the list of used frequencies in Brazil with their name, you can compare it with modems’ datasheet:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/countries/brazil?c_id=1114389
Thank you @Torrone . Reading a bit further about the subject I found out that 4G frequencies used in BR are:
… these are the modem’s bands:
PLS8-E: LTE (20,8,3,7,1); 3G (8,3,1); 2G Dual Band
PLS8-US: LTE (17,5,4,2); 3G (5,4,2); 2G Quad Band
PLS8-J: LTE (1,3,19); 3G (1,19)
PLS8-X: LTE (13,17,5,4,2); 3G (5,4,2); 2G Quad Band
PLS8-V: LTE (13,4,2)
LTE (FDD 3GPP Release 9; 2x2 DL-MIMO
UMTS/HSPA (FDD) 3GPP Release 8; Rx diversity
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 3GPP Release 6; DARP/SAIC
My carrier is Oi, which works with bans 7 and 3 for 4G, so is it correct to conclude that PLS8-E would work for me?
As I understand it, yes.
Nice! Thank you very much!
Just in case Purism monitors this thread I will also +1 for Australian concerns about the modems.
Taking the information from the modem frequencies section of the FAQ (puri.sm/faq/) and local carrier information from frequencycheck.com, it looks like the PLS8-E modem will work in Australia but have no coverage in the USA (assuming I am interpreting the documents correctly) and vice versa for the PLS8-US.
I do a reasonable amount of travel, sometimes to the USA, and even though the modems are swappable I don’t really like the idea of having to look after a spare modem while I travel and swapping a modem on my knee in an airport shuttle.
The lack of one modem with some chance of working in Australia, Europe, and the USA is a major disincentive for me.
It seems like the more up-to-date thread on this would be
I would contact support@puri.sm and ask if they can offer to ship two modems. After all, they put a lot of effort into making the modem exchangeable.
I posted the same question a little while back and did a good deal of research which the kind people here helped me with.
You can make your own mind up of course, but I’m in the wait and see crowd. There are a a couple of open source type phones about to hit such as e foundation and the pinephone who are now counting down. I am tempering my enthusiasm and will wait to see how all of these stack up. Like you, I am very keen for a Librem phone but the modem choices, from what we have now, may be problematic for people like me in the regions.
Just my two cents worth.
I’m in the exactly same situation, and I am waiting for some news for a while now… I hope they’ll announce something soon about a modem that is compatible with the Australian frequencies