amen and awoman
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I just read all that and you didn’t even tell me the name!
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Gab just announced a new phone (not in production yet), also there’s e-foundation de-Googled phones. I’m staying the course on the Librem given these phones will probably triple in value if the ARM shortage gets worse & they have to scale back. I may pick up an e-foundation phone and compare the two.
It’s a tough business to be in, and I know how hard building something from scratch is. I’m hoping they get a financial boost and keep production going, especially now. This seems like the exact time Librem was meant for.
If one thinks about what they are doing, this is not that much money. $2.5 mm. Let’s assume components cost $100.00 per phone (I honestly have no idea). That means they have about $2.1 mm over 3 years. That is $700 K per year which means that if they employed 3 fte’s (full-time employees at $233 K including benefits, etc) over the three-year period, they didn’t make a single cent and all of their profit is going to be made on selling phones once the L-5 is out. If these numbers are even reasonably close, we should be thanking them for their missionary work instead of complaining…
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I think there’s a misunderstanding here. As you say, criticizing is healthy, and honest evaluation of criticism is very much a good thing. However, a large portion of the criticisms of Purism are from the same handful of people, bringing up the same (answered) objections, over and over again. And when answered, their reply is accusations of “fanboyism”. This not only damages their creditbility, it makes it so when others criticize Purism, they face the accusation of just being part of the Anti-Purism crowd (often while simultaneously being called a Purism fanboy by the Anti-Purism crowd). This doesn’t make the honest criticism of Purism less honest or less valid, but it does drown it in noise.
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smoke screen or not … looks like some of us will be ‘grilling’ for some time from now on …
I believe you mean Gabb Wireless? Gab is an isolated Mastodon cluster in the Fediverse full of white supremacy-types. Very different.
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Nope, see discussion here - it’s not Gab Wireless they’re referencing.
https://forums.puri.sm/t/another-de-googled-phone-and-privacy-software/11703
Edit: I would link a news source as well but have no idea if it would be considered controversial in some way so leaving it off for the time being.
Ah interesting. Figured the news would have made the rounds on tech news sites like Ars and the like if it was that Gab. Thanks for the info
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Wrong. Gab Dissenter.
Jesus, if that were the reaction on my progress status reports, I would stop being transparent too. Seriously folks, with all due respect, if you don’t believe Puri.sm is trustworthy just don’t give them your money. But I am happy, because I received my money’s worth already with a pinephone which would not work without Puri.sm’s work on the OS (and their open upstreaming policy, which should not be taken for granted.)
Three(!) years of wait is quit a challenge and I am positively surprised that Puri.sm manages to pull this through these challenging times so far (which is more than can be said about my Jolla tablet).
Also, stop comparing the Librem5 with an pre-existing stock de-googled Android phone, these are leagues apart in terms of effort.
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The problem with the world is people replaying MSM narratives without any proof or looking for themselves. Calling people that do not share your point of view a Nazi does not foment a coming together of ideas. Please stop contributing to the division.
Gab is an isolated Mastodon cluster in the Fediverse full of white supremacy-types. Very different.
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Wrong thread, wrong category to have such arguments. Do not hijack a thread with it.
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Calling neo-nazi “Nazi” and fascist “fascist” is legit.
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Calling a hypocrite a hypocrite is also legit.
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Please follow this advice. This thread is sliding into the direction of mud slinging, and if this continues, relevant posts will be deleted at the discretion of the moderation group.
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The flame continued, so I deleted the last 2 participating messages. Next time I’m closing the thread,
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We keep being told that we should try to be as transparent as possible and publish news as we have it, and that the community are made up of adults. We’ve tried over the last year to publish more news, more frequently, even when we weren’t 100% certain about things (and even then, attempt to explain where our uncertainty is, like in this post).
The jury is still out though, on whether this new approach is working, or worth it. So far, regardless of how much information we give, there will always be some information missing (usually because we simply don’t know) and so far it seems that if any information is missing, people then accuse us of not being transparent enough, then people fill that gap in information with speculation, jump to conclusions based on those speculations, and then attack us as though those conclusions were true.
I’m not saying it’s enough to change the current policy yet. But the community reaction so far is enough, after over a year of trying this, to make me question whether this new approach over the last year is worth continuing.
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I read a news about AMD CEO, Lisa Su talk about Chip shortage too. Its because some substrate shortages for producing Chips. Lisa Su say it can be summer before the shortage is resolved.
Some german news speculate about a high demand in the car industry for cpu’s. Yes that’s bad, because if a car manufacturer stops its production he might lose more Money cause of many employees to pay without progress.
I hope the shortage got solved and that a positive effect can be cheaper Chips or (later) a higher availability cause of Massproduction. Would love to have my Librem soon, however its ok if i have to wait. Keep up the good work and i am fine with your News.
Just for Newbies is not clear in the first place, to follow your Newsfeed/Blog/Microblog on its own or to receive a monthly Status update by mail. However i am fine with this approach of less Mail interaction. Maybe a Checkbox with “Send me important News to my Order for the Librem5 by mail”, and the addition that this is no spam or Newsletter.
I would still like to have as much information as possible.
If Purism provides less information, the gap for speculation will be larger. Nature abhors a vacuum. Aristotle.
See, even 2300 years ago the social media haters, doubters, knockers, speculators, fabricators, … were out in force. 
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