It is now easier than ever for you to get your hands on a Librem 16!
There is a very limited supply of professionally refurbished Librem 16 laptops available on the Purism store at a steeply discounted price. Refurbished models are fulfilled faster than new units and don’t usually stick around, so we recommend placing your order soon.
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So what i looking is that only under arm it can be real notebook, but not on intel: ultra or even worse: high, models. So what i seeing on L14 and L16 is a laptop level case converted to notebook, which personally i do not like it. So to me L14 or L16 it is not Laptop either Notebook case formally.
To me notebooks disable real computer experience and emotion.
If i working to Purism i even to change the Purism logo-and-computer to 4:3 from 16:10 to improve Laptop, Gnu and Programming.
At Purism it doesnt have to folllowing window.os or mac.os computers like.
Thanks for the feedback @carlosgonz! I am not sure about the difference you make between a notebook and a laptop, but the Librem 16 is already a pretty powerful portable computer with a fast CPU and fast components in its heart that can easily be used as a mini desktop replacement.
If we grow enough, we may one day release a “Librem Dev Special Edition” or something like that with features that are often requested by developers; like a keyboard trackpoint, maybe some specific ports, a swapable battery, thicker retro shape with a 4:3 screen.
I would personally love to have such a laptop but we know the audience for this kind of hardware is very limited so while we are also limited in term of production resources, we stay onto a design that is requested by a wider audience.
Very strange. Refurbished already??? IIRC they’ve only been available for less than 2 months?
Are we talking units returned for repairs? What kind of repairs??? Or are we talking about “review units”? I’ve really seen no 3rd party reviews so that doesn’t make sense.
Thank you for the questions!
Refurbished listings are not unusual in the industry at any point following a product launch; it’s simply a standard inventory management process for returned devices that have undergone security and quality inspections, testing and restoration to like-new or better condition. While there are very few of these refurbished units available, having even a single one sitting idle in a warehouse is inefficient, especially as some customers request a Librem 16 at a lower price point.
The current refurbished Librem 16 inventory does not come from review units, as these are still in active circulation.
But two months into the product launch??? And that’s usually for “high volume” launches and, while Purism doesn’t give out numbers, I’m not sure I would count any of Purism’s launches as “high volume”. It usually takes 6 to 12 months to see niche products go out as refurbished.
Has Purism posted refurbished laptop products on their store before???
Yes, but usually after a year or two, not this soon into the product lifecycle.
Well, we all know that when a new product launches and arouses your interest, it is generally safer to wait a few quarters before acquiring one, don’t we?
Yes, this happens all the time in product lifecycles. Products are returned for any number of reasons, and investors (not only inventory accountants or CFOs) would be upset if the company would waste money by not capitalizing on idle inventory. Products are returned for any number of reasons. Purism has received returned products for not being the shade of black the customer was expecting. Regardless of the reason of return, these products must still be professionally refurbished before being resold.
This is patently untrue.
According to the RefurbMe Time-to-Refurb metric, a new iPhone first reaches the refurbished market a median of 82 days after Apple’s release (as of July 2026), so buyers typically wait under three months for the first refurbished units. Source
Edit 2026-08-24:
Refurbished [Framework] laptops and modules typically start from the small number of returns we get from our 30-day return guarantee, and go through a rigorous cleaning and testing process. Source
Framework does not publish mean time to refurbishment, but the above quote could imply that refurbished models may be offered very soon after purchase, including newly-launched hardware.
I would argue that this is subjective and Purism’s sales volume is largely irrelevant for the need to optimize inventory management and accommodate price-sensitive customers.
Also, bear in mind that the general public only has as much visibility into Purism’s sales figures as financial reports disclose. A significant percentage of Purism’s clientele consists of security- and privacy-minded individuals and organizations, most of whom are unrepresented as they are unlikely to post publicly on the Internet.
Yes, Purism has sold refurbished devices many times before. Source
Understood, the Librem 16 is a new iPhone, not its own product with any unique offerings against the broader consumer market.
You made a generalized argument without any supporting evidence, and I provided a source to support my claim that refurbished devices are not usually offered “after a year or two” from product launch. Obviously a Librem 16 is not an iPhone, and you know that is not the argument being made.
You give an example of a high-volume non-niche product that seems out of context.
From my experience it is absolutely true for “niche products” with low volume sales. Although I think my 6m-12m time frame is more accurate. That’s why I was so surprised to see your announcement.
The only other time I’ve seen what was called a “refurb” for a niche product of the price of these laptops was when the first batch had cosmetic manufacturing line defects … and, while it was called “refurb”, it also indicated the issue.
Also with niche products you’ll have the issue that happened with the Librem 14 where there was an ugly manual soldering “hot fix” in the power delivery system. That sort of issue is usually specifically listed and categorized as a refurb (although companies, for whatever reason, usually hold those back).
That’s why I said: “while Purism doesn’t give out numbers, I’m not sure I would count any of Purism’s launches as ‘high volume’”. Purism is extremely guarded in announcing sales figures. I find that disconcerting. It seems that the only information that is provided is what was required by the SEC for the RegCF disclosures.
But, speaking of required public reports: Where are the annual “Social Purpose Corporation” reports??? I believe that you are at risk of losing SPC status if you don’t file those.
Thanks! I hadn’t seen that. They probably didn’t come with a “News” posting.
I don’t know about that.
But when I see a strange announcement that seems to need an explanation … I ask for an explanation. I should note that I’m not really satisfied with the given explanation. Of course they aren’t required to give an explanation.
