Running PostmarketOS on My Librem 5

I am happy that you are happy. I was just reporting, to anyone who cares, about my particular happiness with PostmarketOS on the Librem 5. It is an operating system that I trust will receive and does receive constant software improvement updates. That has most certainly not been my experience with PureOS.

Additionaly, I have almost universally found that I end up fixing things on the device with very little support - outside this outstanding forum, of course.

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I am happy that your are happy on Postmarket too, however i just wish the best for you, at the end we still friends via Librem 5.

But TO ME Mobian and Postmarket are Zombies OSes, which the Librem 5 do not deserve.

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Despite the missed calls and texts?

Well, that is ultimately the issue. I want to rely on it but, given my prior experience, I do not have a lot of confidence that calls and texts will work appropriately. I simply am no longer willing to miss calls and texts. I also have children who rely on me which is more important to me than all the phone freedom fights.

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I’ve to publicly thank you @carlosgonz about OpenRC: trying to substitute default keyboard on Mobian with squeekboard I tried to uninstall the default one (phosh-osk-stevia) but apt told me that I was also uninstalling 25 files!!! Those files were phosh-base, phosh-phone,… so I had to keep installed an unused keyboard just to prevent to delete everything on my Librem 5!!! That’s unacceptable!! It’s really stupid for me!! So, finally, I decided to go back to PostmarketOS that’s deeply modular (GNU/Linux philosophy I remember what said Carlos: 1 file that makes 1 thing very well!) and still thanks to Carlos I remember talking about systemd (a huge meta package vs OpenRC, very light and without a lot of dependencies!! That’s Freedom for me! To be able to uninstall something I don’t need substituting it with what I want without break the system and avoiding to keep something installed that I don’t want!)

I’ll be happy to update constantly my experience in PostmarketOS! Thank you :folded_hands:

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As the user of the Librem 5, I really like PostmarketOS on my Librem 5, much better than PureOS. The environment is much better, you have a real desktop, and everything looks and works better. With PostmarketOS, you get much more of a real smart cell phone experience.

But as the device maintainer, I don’t like PostmarketOS as much. Alpine Linux is not as intuitive as Debian or other common distros. So finding and installing new programs in PostmarketOS can be difficult and not intuitive.

Although it’s very unlikely to happen, I would like to see Purism abandon PureOS and Gnome, and focus all of their Librem 5 development work on PostmarketOS or something with KDE. Comparatively, Gnome is boaring and drab looking. The PureOS App Store is usually broken or at best, very slow and unresponsive.

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Please suggestion:

PostmarketOS with:

  1. plasma-mobile (it uses OpenRC + elogind (a micro version of systemd) but it’s very “mobile style” with icons,…

Or

  1. sxmo-de-sway that’s pure OpenRC, highly personalising,…. but, after installed, very not mobile oriented? it’s very old style text oriented :anxious_face_with_sweat:

I’d like to have a “ready to go” system but highly personalised if I want! Kind of plasma built with sxmo-de-sway way!

Please :folded_hands: help me to choose, thank you!

Here, just as example, a screenshot to connect with on sxmo

Dear Veleno i will never try Postmarket, i prefer to have my Librem 5 as a museum piece before installing PMOS on my beloved L5 or any devices, i just hate pmos more than mobian.

It is true that PMOS has some interesting things, but i do not like the way how it is get done, not to mention that pmos it is not pure GNU, which is a crucial characteristic to me for many reason.

In my opinion, PMOS and Mobian do more harm than good with their existence for Gnu/Linux Mobile. To me PMOS and Mobian are senecent-systems(zombies).

The point is, the last i heard about PMOS was that they were porting Systemd to PMOS, which i do not know if it replaced openrc fully.

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Thank you for your feedback, Carlos!! So which OS is the least worst for you?

I know the ideal top would be Gnu/Linux with OpenRC (lego style as I like to call it) but, at the moment, just to avoid to continue to leave my L5 into drawer since it arrived to me and don’t trusting anymore to Purism, what do you suggest, please? :folded_hands:

And why do you hate POS? Gracias :slightly_smiling_face:

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Not easy to respond as All is bad at some degrees, including PureOS as ship SystemD and Linux than GnuLinux(LinuxLibre).
The problem is that open source developers love free bug-fixes, regardless of users and GNU/Linux system ethics. This is one of the reasons for the monopoly of Systemd and Wayland, which also affects the entire GNU/Linux ecosystem. Right now, there is no democracy in GNU/Linux. Linux, along with open-source and vendors, are king and users are slave.

But the best os for L5 could be Dawn.

QT it a key piece of software modular for embeded devices, so Dawn+Plasma could be the key for L5.
GTK is not for embeded framework.

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Thank you for your explanation!! :folded_hands:

But Dawn will have systemd? Or it’ll be like Lego bricks (eg: OpenRC)?

In the meanwhile, trying to substitute devices in my drawer :joy: Librem5<>IPhone do you think it’s acceptable PostmarketOS? Just temporarily till Dawn..

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Please where I can download and install Dawn just to begin to test it? I looked for on Internet but didn’t find it!

Thank you

@carlosgonz is it?

Our hero @dos is close to getting the PureOS Dawn image, just have to wait some time sooner…

But you can test PMOS instead if you want it.
I would like you test pmos plasma mobile to compare performance to phosh.

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I’m at your disposal for every treat you need, Carlos!! :blush:

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Can share on pmos:

lsmod | grep v4l2 and cat /proc/version

Can I ask you about your experience with Gnome-Calls and the calling experience on PostmarketOS? I am still experiencing some of the headaches with making and answering phone calls. What cellular service are you using, if you do not mind me asking?

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I rebuke the evil pmos.
devil

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carlosgonz:

cat /proc/version

Dear veleno, thanks for everything.

It is ok.

Edit:
OoO you on QT Plasma mobile.

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