Snapdragon X2 Series CPUs will support Linux.

[biketool]

Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon X2 Series Processors Will Support Linux - Slashdot

A bunch of marketing speak and I didn’t see if they would be releasing bin blobs or foss drivers for the chipset components. I hate the stupid ARM and Qualcom near monopolies vs RISC-V and other open hardware but a flagship grade CPU is also pretty nice especially if they get some great power savings sample code for us in normal-ish userlands vs anddroid or macOSmobile..

[j_s]

I’m pleased, and surprised, that debian will have support for a major new hardware before ubuntu.

[amosbatto]

Debian sid usually gets new hardware support before Ubuntu. Many of the Ubuntu devs are also Debian devs, and Ubuntu uses Debian sid as its upstream source, so Ubuntu works to get stuff supported first in Debian sid, so it will make it into the next version of Ubuntu.

As a Debian user, I am very grateful that we have Canonical contributing upstream to Debian.

[carlosgonz]

@amosbatto

As a Debian user

@amosbatto

Many of the Ubuntu devs are also Debian devs, and Ubuntu uses Debian sid as its upstream source,

Thats precisely the disgrace of Debian.

@amosbatto

am very grateful that we have Canonical contributing upstream to Debian.

I am very disappointed,sad that Canonical contributes directly to the upstream Debian project; that is why Debian is not Libre, it is manipulated by Ubuntus vendors commercial ideas rather than own ideas from community for users.

I love Debian, I am Debian, I will Debian.

I hate Ubuntu and Fedora, sorry guys.

[Privacy2]

@carlosgonz

I am very disappointed,sad that Canonical contributes directly to the upstream Debian project; that is why Debian is not Libre, it is manipulated by Ubuntus vendors commercial ideas rather than own ideas from community for users.

I believe you have your facts wrong. The FSF declared that Debian was non-Libre before Ubuntu ever existed. The history as I understand it:

1. The FSF sponsored and guided Debian from Nov1994-Nov1995 when Ian (Murdock; the “ian” of Debian).
2. After Ian stepped down, Debian chose to not continue the formal sponsorship.
3. Sometime in 1997, along with formalizing their “Social Contract”, they separated their repositories to reflect the “non-free” packages.
4. It is the existence of the non-free repository (even though it is not turned on by default) is the issue that FSF in regard to Debian.
5. Ubuntu didn’t start until 2004. That’s long after the fact.

I think it ignores history to suggest that FSF’s issue with Debian is because of Ubuntu. I’m assuming the FSF considers Ubuntu to be worse given that:

1. Ubuntu has non-free packages (firmware with binary blobs) installed by default. [Ubuntu “restricted” is mainly related to proprietary codecs, microsoft fonts, etc.]
2. Ubuntu disagrees with the FSF in regard to the issues surrounding the license for ZFS (CDDL) in regard to Canonical supplying ZFS as a kernel module.

@amosbatto

… so Ubuntu works to get stuff supported first in Debian sid, so it will make it into the next version of Ubuntu.

Yes. But it’s important to note that Ubuntu is, more and more, using their snap infrastructure for the user-to-hardware integration. This can especially be seen with lxd (which Debian no longer supports) and their OS integrations with AI hardware seem to be snap based. Debian is not really adopting that. Like it or not, Ubuntu is adding on additional layers that are “thicker” than it has been in the past.