Does anyone know if mobian implements this?
After trixie is released and mobian releases a a stable release based on it and updates it a few times, I want to give mobian on the Librem 5 a spin.
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Iâve asked ChatGPT for a full description of all files there, itâs here:
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âŚand of course some of its answers are useless or borderline misleading.
We donât have to guess, there are high quality information sources available publicly:
The datasheet describes all the registers, and the driver is straightforward enough that you can just read it to find out what the reported values and units are.
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I did a small experiment as well:
- L5 running Mobian trixie
- WWAN disabled by killswitch, other kill switches not engaged
- charged to 100%, then unplugged charger and sent to suspend
Result: After 11.5 hrs, the battery reports a remaining capacity of 61%. This would roughly mean a battery drain of 3,4% in suspend which would be very high, given radios were disabled.
However, I noticed that immediately after waking the device up it was connected to wifi and had bluetooth enabled, stating that software was not up to date. Hence, I am not sure how deep it was actually sleeping. Also, when I had woken it up before it usually came back with a slightly disorted lock screen and needed more presses of the power button to wake up while this time it was awake instantly.
I guess I should redo the same experiment, but this time disabling as much as possible via kill switches.
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InterestingâŚ
So looks like modem hks may drain battery even if modem do not have a sim but hks ON. 3,4% by hours on suspend will good if modem will ON.
I would like to have Risc-V on WLAN and WANN on Librem 5 mainline, this may a help a little on powersave and openness.
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Next attempt with kill switches engaged:
- charged to 99%
- removed charger
- sent to sleep
After 22.5hrs, the charge dropped to 28%. This is around 3.16% per hour, so almost the same stats as before. And this time the device woke up with the slightly disorted screen, so it seems to have been âsleepingâ. Very sad results.
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what is engaged mean? like ON or OFF?
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Even ON or OFF is not clear. Either DOWN / UP or chip(!) electrical ON / OFF.
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Yes, âkill switchâ is both great terminology and terrible terminology.
If we didnât call it a âkillâ switch and just called it a, you know, switch, I donât think that anyone would then be confused about the meaning of âonâ and the meaning of âoffâ.
PS Edit: The official documentation on this point: Privacy - Purism user documentation
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The English language is terrible, thats why i stopped learning it. It seems that Spanish is more precise in everything.
It seems that Spanish is more Precise, Clear, and Fancy than English.
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With engaged I meant that the kill switch was used to disconnect power so it was down (kill power? yes). And yes I agree that terminology is difficult here.
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engaged means power is enabled
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engaged means power is enabled
No. You canât tell without taking into account the context. If a killswitch - a switch that disables power - is engaged, it effectively means that power is disabled.
Anyways, can we please stay on topic and not waste our time on this pointless discussion?
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Just read the oficial documentation about the HKS, the link is above.
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Can someone confirm 24 hrs on Suspend-Mode as dos said?
I guess dos is lyingâŚ
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I already reached 19-20h, like leaving home at 7am and coming back at 3h with some 10% left.
Caveat: sometimes applications inhibit suspend so, for example, I know I canât ever start Waydroid in such circumstances.
My battery is now old, but I can get 2h30 heavily using the Web, 4h using mostly normal applications (writing something, reading) and 12h idling without suspend sounds very plausible.
I can test and report over if of anyoneâs interest. It depends a lot on any background tasks.
Usually, I slow charge my phone to 70% unless I am going to be the whole day out and I can spend the whole day out, take calls, distract myself while waiting for something - like a normal smartphone sans social crap, without fear. I just need to mind stuck background tasks, like Waydroid not going away when I stop it.
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waydroid session stop
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Weâve had this discussion before.
I can issue waydroid session stop as many times as I want and, sometimes, very randomly, I will realize my phone is not suspending and, when I try to restart it, the restart box has one or multiple lines of âWaydroid is preventing an idle sessionâ.
I couldnât yet figure it out.
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Ah, sorry! That was a bug in phoc which has been fixed upstream some time ago. Iâll see whether the fix could be backported to crimson and perhaps byzantium too.
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