ah, ok. this is very similar behavior to what I get. I thought this was because my GPS antenna has a connection issue.
I’m wondering what other people see.
I am not sure where things go wrong, but the navigation on my L5 works well enough, even if Satellite says it does not.
Satellite shows the same behaviour regardless whether the location services are switched on in Settings -> Privacy or not.
How does that work?
Ill check it tomorrow.
And wimdows, do not bother about this too much. The Geolocation is optimized for guessing your location. With many sources. From the IP you have or if your gyro compass “feel” your moving speed. And if you do not move (fast!) or the Phone did not reboot it “knows” that it likely is in the same location, even if it can not receive Position of Satellites. Or its just Triangulation between from Mobile…
I am not Sure what the “location” Settings do on the Phone, on Purism ones or on the Android one. I known that there is on modern Android ones, that they have one setting for a high resolution location and one for a less high resolution location. And that the Phones OS still collect information from WLAN, BLE and GPS… on a Ring -1 Level to gain Information for 3erd Parties even if the User on Layer 8 will not see it. Which is ok if there is no Information about your Phone, just about WLANs or Airtags Transmitted over some kind of an unknown silent mailbox (just to collect some other Information without Phone ID).
Satellite can’t “confirm clearly” anything and it isn’t going to be able to get proper data until gnss-share is updated, as the version currently in byzantium has a bug that makes it omit most of the information sent by the module.
Also, even if it would work, you’d need to put the phone outside with a good view at the sky (and preferably with screen off) for several minutes or longer until it’s able to see the satellites from a cold start, as there’s no assistance of any kind implemented yet (we have some working proof-of-concept already, but it still needs to be properly integrated).
As noted above, for Satellite to work at all you need to actively bypass the permission system, so it’s no wonder that it still works with location services disabled in the settings.
1 Like
You are right dos, i thought more about the Android-Application an Operating System. However if you have a bypass its true that this information will flow. So no i do not want to add my User to geoclue.
And a Time add to have access for some Script or Application is not available. Maybe i add it for the time i will test this. Oh i understand now why android is doing what its doing.
So what i do today.
- Install Satellite from https://flathub.org/apps/page.codeberg.tpikonen.satellite
And used the downloaded file like @rhodez-x mentioned, to install that Flatpak Version.
I did not launched it with the “–source gnss-share” parameter and yes it was another fail. I did not try to add my user to group geoclue but what should be the right way to get this done?
Did not found instructions for users shell script or how to toggle that gnome Ask for Location Access Box. However, adding sattelite to /etc/geoclue/geoclue.conf did not work too.
I lost my good Position from two weeks before. Now my Phone did not remember the “good gnss” Position or drop the Fix i received in the Past. Maybe because of Updates or by using some kill switches in between.
Without adding the user to the geoclue group, at the moment, Satellite will for sure not work. It will start, but you won’t see satellite information.
This is not necessary any more since Satellite 4.1. Satellite detects the source itself.
And, after the comments of @dos I doubt that even when Satellite can access the GPS source, there will be any useful information. An updated version in the PureOS repositories of gnss-share is needed first.
Thank you for your update janvug,
i would use the group Patch but it feels like a hack or Workaround so i just wait for more development.
The Reset of my Almanac or enhances GNOSS Plane was a Show-Stopper for me. However i like to Route myself with Maps, or with Offline-Applications through some route to some destination. So i would not use Gnome Maps, as i would not use Google Routing. And if its just to remember the Route or the Streets i have to pass.
My Curiosity was just to collect routes or distances or to discover some difference in altitude i have on my weekly way. So its not important.
And with satellite you can trace your own way. Or by just have a script writing the raw Data and transmute it later with some cl tools. So i am fine.
Thank you for your attention.
1 Like