The Librem 5 Mass Production Shipping FAQ

I don’t have any info on those timelines so I couldn’t say.

Does it matter to ones service provider?

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Why would it? Radio stations don’t care what radio you use. My ISP doesn’t care what modem I use. My phone doesn’t care what charger I use (as long as the wattage etc is correct). If any of those things caused some other device to go haywire, that’s on the manufacturer of that device, and perhaps me for using it.

So the FCC Certification is not an issue? What is it necessary for then?

Tick-a-box compliance? :wink:

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What’s that? Gov. BS?

Just looked it up. This stuff is sure complicated to a simpleton like me.

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Have to have it to be imported into the US?

Seems you missed that

Anyways, the radio cards are certified, but as an electronic device, as a whole, the phone must be too.

I don’t know why Kyle plays this down, what is the legal loophole to keep shipping non-certified electronic devices, or why someone would want a non-certified one…

They are a hardware company, they should know exactly what they can or cannot do.

I won’t look further into this, but I’ll expect to get a certified phone.

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But then phones are probably being imported without their cellular modems. So the phone by itself can hardly fail testing regarding emissions in the cellular frequencies (since there are no emissions). (It could fail testing regarding emissions in the 2 WiFi bands.)

The cellular modem is imported by itself - but it already has certification.

Then, in accordance with your choice, the cellular modem is installed in your phone. But that’s not being imported into the US.

Who knows?

That makes sense. I just want my phone. Going crazier waiting now that it’s getting so close to shipping. Coming down to the wire after almost 3 yrs. the finish line is getting real close. They say end of Dec or early Jan for me! Starting to get really excited! Soon the presents will be under the tree

I should add to my post that, in my post, emissions means intentional emissions. It is always possible that a device accidentally interferes with something else via unintentional emissions.

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Yes, even if you kill switched off the two radio cards, the mainboard that
Purism designed and the phone as a whole, theoretically, can produce harmful EMI (electro-magnetics interference) that causes the plane to crash.

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Because it’s something of a grey area. If you go buy a desktop computer from an SI, it won’t come with an FCC sticker for the machine as a whole. There are simply too many permutations of case, PSU, CPU, motherboard, videocard, and onboard wireless to actually do that. Instead, each individual component which produces EMI is certified, and the device as a whole is treated as an unintentional emitter (despite the onboard wireless, the assembled device’s assembly does not intentionally transmit). This is still the case when the SI uses custom PCBs or similar to reroute power or data through risers or cables not in the above list.

Purism is taking the line that the phone is in the same category, and like a desktop computer with a wifi card in an m.2 slot, it still can be treated as an unintentional transmitter. They are likely to be correct, but are still pursuing the FCC stamp of approval, both for simplicity, and so if one of the phones does go to causing significant interference, they can demonstrate good faith effort to comply.

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Just to be clear, electronic devices do not cause planes to crash. The concern has been that EMF from electronic devices, especially those with radio transmitters, could interfere with avionics.

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In a nutshell, yes

just lol at that radiation and you’ll be fine :slight_smile: but keep that iodine close and the HKS closer :wink:

That radiation is but a small fraction of what one absorbs daily if they go out in sunlight etc. Iodine is very good. Selenium is helpful too. HKS could be the answer one is ultimately seeking. Lol doesn’t make it any more of a joke than the Dr. Strangelove movie did for global nuclear annililation. Whatever floats your boat.

or in this case the FCC’s boat … :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Yeah I really dislike any gov