I ordered/joined on Jan. 11 , 2018. It’s been a pretty long journey and a lesson in patience. But as the process moves forward , the issues come up that can be worked out over time. I just figure the longer they take the more the phone will be ready for the daily driver. If not I’ll get a tracfone to help out. My moto play with it’s screen bulging off(24 hr. charging works) barely works and provides my friends something to laugh about. They refer to my forthcoming Librem 5 as the Nigerian Princess scam phone.
I don’t care as I will get my L 5. My Linux Mint 20 Intel(devil) Nuc is anxious to meet it’s new baby brother. I love Linux. The customer support guy Mladen has been like a therapist helping calm my anxiety by answering promptly all my questions.
This Nov./Dec. will be a big deal in my late life. I’m like a kid on christmas night that ate too much sugar.
And you regulars/techies are pretty cool too. This has been quite an experience! Definitely worth $599 !
Yes! Good plan, I should do the same. 
I think so too. I really hope they can get them working in time, at least for reviewers sake. Likewise it would not bother me if they don’t work initially but reviews will not be kind to a phone without working cameras…
just doN’t ! 
if you get diabetes they’ll put you on the respirator …
Isn’t that what tech support is all about? Maybe @mladen & co. need a new title - “support therapist”, “gadget expectation anxiety manager”, or similar? And isn’t that what this group psychosis we got going on needs? After all, we are sharing thoughts on an (mostly) imaginary device that we hope will miraculously appear (and I’m not even going to include all the obvious tinfoil stuff that could be included here about it’s mystic powers)… 
Btw. it’s about time to get those chocolate calendars handy - you can use them to count down to the (assumed and expected) mid-November announcement. Or, if it comes to that, just use chocolate to alleviate the pain of delay (but not in the amount of losing bodyparts or fuctionality).
And on a related note, wouldn’t it be nice to have @Kyle_Rankin or someone to give an update how things are going? Even if it is “nothing has changed, everything is moving along”. So as not to repeat bad communication habits of the past and so on. It’s called managing expectations (or, like I joked, therapy for the “psychosis”). It’s been a few weeks again…
[edit: corrected specialist to manager]
The latest mention I know of is from:
October 8, 2020 - Purism Launches Fund Your App Page:
“The mass-produced Librem 5 phones begin shipping late November 2020”.
On the Librem 5 Product Page it says:
“Upon initial shipment of the Librem 5, it will offer the essentials: phone functionality, email, messaging, voice, camera, browsing.”
EDIT EDIT2: @joao.azevedo just posted some pictures taken with Librem 5 [Edit2: Android] and a note about quality and camera drivers still needing work (a lot).
When I ordered it in Sep 2018 there were about 3700 orders already. And being located far away in Romania, I’m pretty sure I won’t get it for Christmas (again). But perhaps in February…? Although I feel that another delay is coming…
Because there are almost no Dogwood in the wild. Dogwood had (still has?) a serious problem that made a large majority of customers to switch to Evergreen before a hack (not a fix) was found.
wow, wow, wow. You miss read my joke 
(those pictures where made with a A***D smartphone)The joke was the picture quality would get better when the camera on my Librem 5 works and I can take pictures from it.
But to clarify, camera is being worked on now
I just got back from a vacation, but things are all going according to plan. Nothing new to report in terms of Evergreen timeline.
if you eat chocolate then eat your chocolate 
maybe we need Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler in here to help with anger management as well
Thanks to everyone for all the replies.
Sadly as much as I love Purism, as I have said before, until someone like Gardiner is holding & reviewing a Librem 5 and shows ALL aspects working out of the box this issue will not resolve.
Which issue?
Since you mention that … any word on the status of / progress with this I2C (?) problem? @joao.azevedo @Kyle_Rankin
So, when can we expect the mail asking us to choose a modem?
I ask because Purism mails tend to end up in my spam box, despite me trying to prevent this from happening. Therefor a timely heads up would be very welcome.
Probably late Nov. according to Purism. But they’ll need to know our modem choice before they do , so i really hope it’s sooner than later. I’ve waiting almost 3 yrs. so a couple more mo. are whatever . But like the night before Christmas , that time waiting seems like an eternity.
Before they ship (modem choice)
I really do but: Its Pointless. It take the time it takes. Just do not get a Covid Virus!
Because doing it fast, is slower than do it right.
I don’t trust my note 9 phone not to spy on me using the camera. So I put a piece of masking tape over the back side of the Otterbox, positioned and just big enough to cover the camera up. On the front side, a small piece of scotch tape does the same job. I rarely need a camera and now with the inconvenience of removing the tape, I just choose to never use the camera at all. So if Purism ships my L5 with a non-working camera that will eventually work after a firmware upgrade, I’ll be ahead, especially since it’ll have a hardware kill switch to the camera when it eventually does work. So if the camera is the only non-working feature of the phone, I won’t miss it.
the issue of more reviews, there are far more reviews from customers with the Pinephone showing calls and other features working, this can not really be said for the L5, until customers, and reviewers like Gardiner actually have the L5 and show calls and other features working out of the box, there are many who are skeptical about the L5.
I want more than anything for the L5 and Purism to be a huge sucess, but there has to be more customers and at length video reviews for this to happen.