Check the switches on the side of your phone. Nobody will hear you if your Mic and Camera switch is turned off.
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No give up. It is my daily driver. (I did not tweak it a lot, just a change to fix the modem sleep, and one to freeze the kernel version). The battery is wearing, so I am not far from a USB charger.
There is one really annoying bug (mic off when you place the first call after waking up from sleep).
But I really hate the alternatives…
Need the app to do that ? No way, I prefer not to use your service (*).
I miss something by the way : How do you financialy contribute on a regular basis ? Is it possible to do so in euros ?
(*): there is one banking application enforced by my employer. I need to power on an old iphone I bought for this purpose (30€), one time per month. Shitty 2FA, they have no standard totp…
I am waiting for a librem v2 (more battery, lot more RAM please !).
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Start here for reading and discussion and links: PureOS Optional Subscription Added to Advance Development
Choices of US$5.99, US$9.99 or US$19.99 a month.
You just order the level of support that you are willing to give in the Purism Store e.g. PureOS Subscription Premium – Purism
I am not aware that that has ever been explicitly answered but you can see in the linked discussion that it was asked. First raised in post #3 in that topic. Then posts #88 and #89. My guess is “no” but for enough €s everything is negotiable 
i.e. you can always ask.
As the linked discussion observes, if you are very concerned about exchange rate risk then you can make a one-off donation each time you want to and thereby have a much more accurate idea of the final amount in euros that you are donating each time.
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I have had typically more or less the same problem for several months, I understand that some people give up. I still use my Librem 5 daily, but it’s cumbersome to have to perform a phone call to wake up the model to receive and send SMS.
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Regarding batteries, when I bought Librem 5 I also bought 2 batteries and an external charger exactly to avoid to be close to the cable
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Personally I don’t trust Purism anymore so before to buy an eventual Librem 5 v2 I expect they make our v1 fully functional!! No sense to buy a new hardware and then wait again years and years leaving v2 into drawer!! I prefer to buy a new Linux minipc in a phone form factor like Librem 5 from Purism Competitor if someone else will develop it not only hardware but also software using same paranoid Purism philosophy (all or almost all hardware open, isolate blobs if unavoidable, kill switchs,…)
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If an L5 falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it (with the mic on), will it record a sound?
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I donated almost $300 in euros for the subscription, and the exchange rate was in my favor, so I paid less in euros. Currently, $1 USD = 0.8568 EUR, so don’t hold back on that account. Also, the EUR has been strong vs USD for the last 10 years, and with Trump still in power for > 3 years, I wouldn’t worry about losing money that way 
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Hear, hear. They’ve worked very hard to lose that trust I was an avid supporter for years, but I’m starting to see that it is unreciprocated love
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I just created a Liberapay account for Purism to accept donations in a variety of non-crypto currencies. Improvements to our profile page are pending.
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welcome to the linux phone revolution experience at its early ages… 
i have a pinephone (postmarket/sxmo), that i dont use as a phone cuz similar reasons (i didnt give it up, just my heap of todo is huge with higher priorities), but i dont need to carry my notebook around anymore to bring my linux swag with myself, and i dont need to use my untrusted android for anything that could be sensitive (beyond tracking me)… actually a trustworthy small notebook/tablet besides a phone used only for the minimum is a good way to have an isolated modem from the rest of your world that you can still carry around and u can share mobile network with it to rely on online solutions for trustworthy means of telecommunication, but that dumb phone part is still getting worse all the time and having 2 devices is a real inconvenience…
sometimes i update it, sometimes i work on it a bit, but i have this dream about trustworthy machines… opposing forces are nearer to closing the circle every year, so this freedom fighting game is important, as the big brother needs to go for money instead of truth/whatever, so its a game of power with dirt, blood and slavery, not just the inevitable future that we will survive anyhow like if nothing serious happened… and im a developer, i have a visionfive 1.0 too to jump into the risc-v revolution, but most ppl buying these gems didnt believe the advertisement that these are best served with cold pizza and techno in a basement where one can focus on serious things without disturbances like knowing which day is it…
if the hw is fine (im not about gigabytes and megapixels), then they will eventually/likely become ripe/mature, as there is a lot of room for improving sw, in terms or usability, space/battery/time efficiency, and rich, polished and easy2use ecosystem… these wont really die out, i saw a nokia n900 with debian a few years ago, probably its owner still uses and loves it… maybe if u break it… all the tech is like a moving train where u just jump up at a point and try to catch up with whatever interests u… and u are already on with your librem, when this whole movement will reach something that can be adopted by masses, u will know much, u will have advantages! using these as daily driver is a nice dream, some of us even reached there, so nothing is impossible, but having 2 phones allows u to experiment! when i only got new phones when the old died/lost i didnt even dare to think about rooting them, i depended on them, and bricking was something i couldnt allow myself… those who played the android rooting game probably have much advantage in the current game compared to me… they even know the arm chips well, that i see now how it is related to the risc-v stuffs… now i have a diverse set of machines/phones, and my personal chaos in the middle of making the perfect system for all of them, i learned so much about networking and a lot more…
so my advice is just to sometimes give it a try, update it, experiment a bit, take it as a toy, and as a precursor of a better future than the status quo, u spent some money that fuels that future, even if your nextgen linux phone wont come from purism, it will likely see more or less bits from them!
i never tried this, but it is possible to take packages from developer branch on a stable system, or to keep an old version to skip some erroneous new versions, and it is also possible to roll back the entire system… multiboot is an option as well, and working this out to be easily doable by purism (or anyone with their blessing) could help really much!!!
purism had to take the road they took, its bedrock dictates it (that social purpose whatever corporation (dunno) and that librem 5 is the “raison d’être” of purism), and it is just that hard as it seems to be, half liberation is not an option, or at least not a target for sure, while cutting edge vs mass adoption is a serious tradeoff they should calculate in all of their steps… as well as their reputation while they try to do something good but while aiming high… actually they wouldnt even need to develop any software beyond a proof of concept code for testing hw, pine does that and it is sustainable, but we are all here to burn some time/money/energy/braincells/whatever on a better future, so from this perspective i see it fine that purism develops codes too… otherwise i would go for an usb modem for mass adoption by hackers to make it cool, and then probably everything else would become smooth once such gets a polished fw and ecosystem…
to the end… now u folks here who got enough of this **** are FREE, u can experiment with ur toys without that much worries as if it would be a dead serious dependence on it…
all the bests to all of u! 
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Thought provoking thread. My experience with Librem products so far has been exclusively with the desktop and laptop products. I actually got rid of my mobile phone for several years after T-mobile shutdown their 3G networks and my dumbphone (mostly) stopped working.
I have been nothing but happy with my Librem mini, zero issues whatsoever. I did have a faulty power jack on my Librem 14 that was serviced under warranty. Only other issue I have with Librem 14 is bottom of display lid is starting to separate near the hinge. I will probably have to send the laptop in at some point to have that serviced.
It’s funny to hear people talk about upgrading their Librem 5s to Crimson just now. I’ve been running Crimson on the mini for several years at this point, and am now looking to upgrade to Dawn.
Crimson is starting to become an issue because certain AppImages will no longer run due to Crimson’s outdated glibc libraries for example. Software wise, I’m getting “shoved off the upgrade cliff” as I call it.
I am in the market for a used Librem 5. If I had money to burn I would buy the $2000 Liberty Phone just out of principle and to support free hardware platforms. The biggest hang up I have with shelling out $800 or $2000 for a Librem 5 is that, I have a really hard time spending that kind of money on a device that I could lose or drop and break when I’m out and about. Seems too risky.
If I had by druthers, I would not carry a mobile phone at all. Unfortunately there can be big hassles involved in modern life when living without a mobile phone. Many apartment or condo buildings don’t have call boxes anymore, or the existing ones don’t work. If you want to make contact with the occupants, a mobile phone is your only option.
I’m at the point personally where I don’t want to carry a mobile device that doesn’t have hardware switches for radios, cams and mics. That pretty much leaves the L5 and the FLX1.
If I owned a Librem 5 I would probably use it primarily for web browsing, secure messenger apps, like Delta Chat or Session, podcast listening, and picture and video taking. My PSTN phone service needs, including SMS, have been handled by voip.ms for almost a decade now.
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I just give up on “Internet 1990th”, Capitalism 1985, Microsoft, X, Amazon, Netflix, Apple, Twitter, Meta, OpenAI, Tencent, Rockstar, Micropose, EA, HBO, Bayer, CNN…
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Frank, I think this could be a solution to your recurring payments with prepaid cards problem: Zebec Mastercard
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Nice.
Because lots of Librem 5 users know there is a lot more to do, but cannot technically do it, so we need to pay capable peope.
It seems that you need to configure few more things on Liberapay :
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They’re receiving so much money that they don’t need more of it!! 
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39 posts were split to a new topic: Off topic stuff from “given up on Librem 5”
Yes, I also think of the same phone because L5 was a good start, but maybe flx1 is a the bridge to Linux Phones.
I am no developer at all but I was quite found of just finding new ways of using a pocket PC with some phone functionality.
Basically most of smartphone users just use the phone for browsing and getting rid of adds.
The L5 truely solved the issue, but it only lasts for a quater of a day. Maybe the next device can takle that problem. Now with the faulty hw I am giving up.
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L5 it is not full complete for all energy efficiency. Gnu Dawn with gles3 will the first one for energysave upto Gnu Emerald.
Tons of Linux user open-source is selling yours L5 just because they have little knowledge of how things work, and they think that L5 is bad for energy efficient.
Thank you.
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