The link on the L5 desktop “Purism Store” permits me to reach the store and see it’s front end, but clicking a category - any of them, opens the category but I just see empty shelves.
It’s been a long time since anything would show up.
Yes - I have:
Waited 20 minutes and sometimes more for anything to appear. Hasn’t happened.
I tried each Category and waited for list - no list to show.
Rebooted and went directly to the empty store. I waited 5 minutes, more than should be expected of anyone, and store still remains empty.
Disconnected all other devices, rebooted, back to still empty store.
Note that there have been at the most, 5 times the store shelves were full had stuff, but 5 times over 2 years - is it asking too much to set a day and time it will be available or restocked?
“Learn” is the only Category that works for me - and then only if I use Hamburger / Preferences / Show Incompatible Applications.
When it is not working, the list of boxes each containing “…” does change within say 1 minute to a blank screen (which is not a great UX since I can’t tell whether there are zero results or whether an error occurred).
I would say that the problem here is that the PureOS Store application does not itself have a list of applications but instead relies on downloading information from a server - and that process is problematic. (Obviously therefore, if this is correct, you need to have a working internet connection for the application to work.)
I think most people just install software from the shell (sudo apt ...).
Edit: Actually “Socialize” just worked for me too.
The PureOS Store app is based on the GNOME Software app and had gotten many performance optimizations in 2023. Unfortunately, due to the age of Byzantium, the PureOS Store app is based on an older version of GNOME Software without these optimizations.
I think those “most people” are those that like to tinker with L5 rather and Linux than those the L5 ads target.
Yes. I tried again just now and waited, but 4 categories opened for me - today. So to sum it, keep trying; one day it might work, maybe, maybe not.
I have read what everyone else has suggested and pointed out, especially
It was about a year ago that I suggested my issues might be due to old hardware and/or software. I think it is.
Do you go to a web link to get there, or Terminal Mode ™?
If in TM, can’t what you type be made in to a web shortcut? If using TM, how do you peruse and select name of software and TM it? Is there a link somewhere in Docs, WiKi (here) or similar place that describes the steps to ‘sudo’ or whatever? Yes or No is enough, I’ll find it after I know it’s here.
I will rephrase my question:
Is There Any Set Time/Day for “PureOS Store” to be available? or, do we randomly check every now and then and hope?
No, here are the instructions I provided to you a while back:
After those instructions, there is a magnifying glass icon at the top left corner of the PureOS Store you can use to search Flatpaks and other software packages.
Old hardware? I doubt it.
Old software? Maybe. It’s definitely old software (but the proof of whether that explains anything can only come when crimson is available and if the problems go away with crimson).
But …
if the distinction is between “your issues” and “issues that are in common with everyone else” then that is the first question: Does everyone else get the same behaviour?
In the case of problems with the PureOS Store application, lots of people have lots of issues with it. So it isn’t “your issues” - and we’re all just waiting for that application to improve.
However on all my big computers I use apt to install software, so I am not worried about doing the same on the Librem 5. I understand that that makes me a tinkerer.
Well, according to two mobile provider’s, one major, one not so major, if it’s older than 6 years, get a new device or stop using the mobile part of the device.
Me? I don’t doubt it. There are too many things on this that fail to suggest it’s a user issue.
Maybe!?!? “Not necessarily” You know, but for those that don’t one definition of insanity is: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Anyone may join the rest of the Bubba’s arguing who, when, why and how the saying was first used. I’m not interested in the many versions. I like this one.
As for how it fits here, I plead insanity. 13 flashings, and one by Puri. I expected different results.
Lest we, you forget, many the time I was instructed to do something to make text/pics work, the many offers of help failed to work. I wouldn’t count every one of those as more than one (1) issue. To re-flash the phone over and over was one (1) issue. Getting the Camera to take a picture without spending a lot of time manually adjusting Gain, Exposure, Balance, and Focus while taking a picture in my experience with cameras, make this thing a camera.
Please don’t yank a destination out Googles butt that defines a camera, making this a camera. You know what the problems were, and I was not the only one with that issue.
Crimson will need a year of beta testing.
What a insane way of doing business. Damn good thing Puri doesn’t make cars. Buy a new model then buy a new headlight to see if it will fix the problem with the brakes not working. WOW! That is not a excuse, it’s sci-fi fantasy. No way to do business. Sell a product and tell everyone to wait until Crimson comes along.
“Not necessarily” that no one will tell potential customers to buy L5, put it in a drawer and wait. 1 year, maybe 2. Probably three - perhaps 4 - when Yellow is released for testing.
Then make it cleasr that the L5 requires one to learn Linux, then learn PureOS nuances, just to find and install some software when it should not be that difficult.
The duops don’t requires a working knowledge of the OS. They sell a phone, and it works. Only issue with that is, It works to well for the Stalkers.
I am not, as having been accused of in the past, comparing apples to lemons. I am comparing phones to phones. I am looking at what sells, and are produced using the KISS principal, and works out of the box.
Why doesn’t the ‘shop’ warn people that to make it work, they’ll need to wait to see if Crimson with do the job or not?
I read a recent article that went through L5 and other similar devices. They put L5 number 1 as the best phone for privacy. Sounds great. I should get me one of those.
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p.s. Just got a “Notification” saying “Additional Packages Required” Now I wonder what the that is all about. Must a “apt” around here somewhere. Another’n day down the tubes.
Thanks. I’m quite use to doing that at least once a day when starting up from Sleep/Hibernate/whatever.
Just had a phone call come in. Screen hung. Could not make it do anything. It went to that screen /w Mute, Speaker, Add call, Hold, and dial pad. The back (<) button doesn’t do anything. I am permitted to swipe down and get the Notifications screen and back again.
C’est la vie - just another day - another unique one and one only weird device.
Can’t Power down. It’s grayed out. Actually, I’m sitting here laughing. Yes, a hard reboot. I do that every morning cause it hangs overnight.
Your tip won’t go unseen - I’m sure it’s in perpetuity and will soon help others in their similar quests with Crimson.
I hope there is a patch to the last fixed patch to patch the fix soon.
Since you’re here - I’ll ask you about a side curiosity. Since I am not able to see the PureOS Store; is there another safe place to look for good programs that are safe for the L5?
I can find lots of “Software” via my PureOS desktop verses the PureOS link on the L5.
If I should open another post to ask, I think I’d be in trouble.
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To catch up. All but “Learn” opened with tiles showing stuff.
I thought that there would be more than just what’s there. I counted 22 files that might install. Learn and Develop were blank - not empty blank “Editor’s Choice”.
22 isn’t much to choose from.
Too bad there’s no interest in developing software for PureOS.
That search needs some serious intervention. I search using ‘network’ and I get 4 hits with “What IP” being the closest thing to “network”, the other 3 not even close.
But, it shows “66 more matches” tap that I am only shown 5, 4 the same with one new. It is missing the other 61 of the matches.
I have done some searching as to where I might find programs that will work on L5, stalkers or no stalkers. I don’t care any more.
The “Store” is still terminally s l o w. It took 55 seconds to list 5 hits and that’s not using search, just the gratuitous fill-ins.
Wow. That’s a bit better. Thanks for the tip, but who would want something that doesn’t work (“incompatible”)?
I looked through a lot, but most is for desktops and/or laptops but not phones. Some might do well on my PureOS desktop though.
I would love to find something that let’s me marry up Windows desktop, PureOS desktop, a Ubuntu laptop, and L5. Instead of copying to/from USB stick and share that way.
Offside a bit, there use to be a program called Carbon Copy that let one control the desktop of other devices connected. Unfortunately it’s very proprietor and very old.
I used Warp to send from Windows to a unknown server elsewhere to the L5. A long way around it until Warp came up with a error that the support has no record of. Aggg!
I think “incompatible” is a bit of a misnomer. They should have described it as “potentially incompatible,” “not officially adapted,” etc. Many existing PureOS (and other distros’) repos contain applications that do adapt to the small touchscreen, but haven’t been officially documented as doing so.
Over your home network, at least, that is already possible via the venerable ssh and sftp, which have been documented here in the forums and in the Librem 5 Community Tips & Tricks tutorials.
Outside of your home network, you can accomplish the same via the “Jumpdrive” application plus a cable, as I understand it. (Well… maybe not all your devices at the same time, the way you can with sftp.)
EDIT: Here is a screenshot of the Files browser on my laptop, showing saved bookmarks to the IP addresses of some other devices on my home network:
If I click on, e.g., “Rpi,” I’m prompted for the user name and password of the Raspberry Pi on my network, and then all the files on the Rpi are displayed in the Files browser of my laptop, as if they were physically there. I can then view, edit, add, delete, move, etc., any file. Vice versa: From the Rpi (i.e. logging physically into that device), I can also access the laptop’s files over the network, if I want.
All of the above works just fine with the Librem 5, too.
Yes, but I should have added or mentioned was …’ let’s me use a GUI to marry up…’ because ssh and sftp is more a bunch of commands to learn. I’m GUI friendly
Now I wonder what the that is all about. Must a “apt” around here somewhere. Another’n day down the tubes.
