Mobian on Librem 5

I have a powerbank :wink:

But this cannot be the solution for an absolutely shitty battery life time. Maybe there is an design problem on the hardware, maybe this is a software issue. But YEARS after start manufacturing it there is no visible improvement on this problem.

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It is up to you if you want to use your power bank or not. Otherwise, you can also consider the Lapdock Kit, which also passively recharges the Librem 5:

I want to have a phone, not an “environment” :wink:

For all I need more I have an Surface Pro 5 Tablet with Keyboard - installed with Arch-Plasma 6

Bought the Surface used for 250€ and it was one of my very best invests ever

Suspend on the L5 works, but without any IP connection and a not usable clock.

If You have to wake up the phone for work and make some calls the battery unload like a defective pool.

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Did you enable suspend and/or have extra batteries to swap through the day?

I have used a powerbank and changing the batteries.

But here in Europe I will never be able to buy an replacement back cover when after a lot of battery changes the back cover will give up. And for a new battery I was urged to buy one from the PRC in eBay.

So this can be an emergency solution, but for a phone which costs a really amount of money this is no way to the future

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Here are your options:

Here is an alternative option:

If you prefer non-removable batteries for phones instead, there are plenty of options from Big Tech right now, enough to create tons of electronic waste every year. It is up to you if you prefer unsustainable and wasteful practices for your business, in spite of its consequences against the planet’s resources and future.

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This is not a good argument for a shitty realized battery/modem construct.

Here I have an OnePlus6 where I have replaced a broken back cover and the battery without big hassles for 25€

The problem on the L5 exists and it may be a design error or an software error. But fur such an expensive gadget like the L5 I can expect more engagement and more communication from the company which built it.

The alternative way “sending the pone to Purism” is a joke for european people. This will cost more than an alternative phone and do not forget the tax control re-importing the L5 into the EU.

Why they cannot deliver batteries and other spare parts like any other company? The PRC will gladly produce batteries, back covers and more if You ask them :wink:

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For batteries, it has to do with IATA requirements. Other spare parts can be ordered from the webshop or by asking Purism support. Some parts can be 3D printed.

Go ask them, then report back once you have secured production.

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I have already bought a battery from the PRC, costs 30€ and was delivered within one week. How about IATA when You transfer it via an regular freight ship like all others?

Why Prism cannot do what an PRC retailer in eBay can do without any hassle?

It is the job for Purism to assure a working system of spare parts and not mine!

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Seems fine to me.

Use couriers other than DHL, and the eBay Global Shipping Program, which handles most of the paperwork. Further questions can be directed to Purism support:

I asked them with no usable answer

As the original battery of the L5 is produced by

Zhongshan Tianmao Battery Co. Ltd

I cannot understand the problems of “We can not send Li-Io batteries…” to the customer.

The original batteries manufactured in the PRC maybe are not beamed to the US ?
Why I can buy aftermarket batteries with no hassle in eBay ?

But this should not be the content of this thread.

I wondered about the shitty battery lifetime also in Mobian

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I have been using a headphone as a work around for the echo problem and it seems to work.

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How is your mobian repo looking like? My mobian repo got diactived recently not sure how and there’s no sources.list file anymore, instPreformatted textead there’s a “debian repo” under sources.list.d that I find a debian trixie line. I will ssh inside later and post my repo.

mobian@mobian:~$ cd /etc/apt
mobian@mobian:/etc/apt$ ls
apt.conf.d   keyrings       sources.list.bak  trusted.gpg.d
auth.conf.d  preferences.d  sources.list.d
mobian@mobian:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ ls
debian.sources  mobian.list.dpkg-old
mobian@mobian:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat debian.sources
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian/
Suites: trixie
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
$ cat mobian.list.dpkg-old
deb http://repo.mobian.org/ trixie main non-free-firmware

I remember running some apt modernize commands as suggested, then it changed to current situation.

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We have now setup a bounty to fix echo cancellation for calls on Mobian Trixie (eventually on PureOS Dawn when it will switch from pulseaudio to pipewire).

Please support and spread the word. We hope a reasonably good bounty can motivate some people to fix the issue.

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Tried to contribute unfortunately the credit card country selection dropdown doesnt have a scrollbar and there is no way to enter say USA and it moving to the country record. Just FYI

Issue on mobile device with firefox phosh OSK, scaling screen did not help also i have always show scrollbars enabled. Scrolling using OSK does not move list down beyond what is initially visible in the drop down window.

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Turn off VPN in order to get it to default correctly? That’s not solving the GUI problem of course.

I didn’t contribute but country selection worked fine using Firefox on Linux desktop.

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And I’m happy to report that I managed to fix echo issue by switching back to pulseaudio as suggested by @dos (who did this already for crimson) This involved 3 steps,

  1. Allow pulseaudio as an alternate dependency to pipewire-audio in mobian-base
  2. Install pulseaudio and remove pipewire-pulse
  3. Disable default wireplumber service and enable wireplumer@video-only service instead

Due to a mistake in copying the systemd user presets, I had to spend a lot of time troubleshooting it as all my audio devices just vanished due to conflict between pipewire and pulseaudio. So audio was fully broken in the process for many hours.

For those who want to try, can install mobian-base, librem5-support and librem5-tweaks packages from Index of /~praveen/mobian I have sent merge requests to all three packages and hope this would be included in trixie by default.

I’m really liking the new upgrade, it looks a lot nicer, I have the latest phosh, gnome and data connection is a lot more stable than bookworm. The recently released kumo browser works on trixie (it was not working on bookworm - I was generally looking for not from mozilla foundation browsers - librewolf and other forks are not yet adaptive).

The only irritation I found is chatty service seems to unresponsive after some time and a reboot needs long press of the power button.

So overall now I can recommend people try mobain trixie now!

Though we would still like to fix this with pipewire going forward, so please contribute to the bounty if you can.

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Did you try a different browser ? If you were using Firefox, try gnome web. You can also report the issue to GitHub · Where software is built

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Hi! Could you check is clapper work or not?

Both clapper and livi crashed. vlc can play videos. FreeTube can play youtube videos.