Déjà Dup is a great way to keep your Librem device backed up:
https://puri.sm/posts/backups/
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Since this doesn’t back up the installed apps, one could run a list of those every so often, using:
ls /usr/share/applications | awk -F '.desktop' ' { print $1}' -
and export the list from the terminal to a text file for saving and backup.
(Thanks to www for providing the answer. Lol!)
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I’ve found it easier if you get the list of apps through dpkg. I document it in my pre-deja dup Librem 5 backup and restore post and actually run it in cron so I have an updated list of packages that end up in my home directory:
00 00 * * * dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 > /home/purism/pkglist
I still use this process for backup and restore when I’ve migrated between different iterations of the phone, and the process works basically the same for a laptop or desktop. I also have a Deja Dup daily task running that backs up my home directory just so I can recover from a mistake:
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Sweet. This saved as a Foliate file for me, for some reason (and not in columnar format), but I was able to open it with Text Editor, which displayed it as a single column:
accountsservice
acl
adduser
adwaita-icon-theme
aisleriot
apg
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apt-config-icons
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libsqlite3-0:arm64
libsratom-0-0:arm64
libsrtp2-1:arm64
libss2:arm64
libssh-gcrypt-4:arm64
libssh2-1:arm64
libssl1.1:arm64
libstartup-notification0:arm64
libstdc++6:arm64
libstemmer0d:arm64
libswresample3:arm64
libswscale5:arm64
libsyncevolution0
libsynctex2:arm64
libsynthesis0v5:arm64
libsystemd0:arm64
libtag1v5:arm64
libtag1v5-vanilla:arm64
libtalloc2:arm64
libtasn1-6:arm64
libtdb1:arm64
libteamdctl0:arm64
libtevent0:arm64
libtext-charwidth-perl
libtext-iconv-perl
libtext-wrapi18n-perl
libthai-data
libthai0:arm64
libtheora0:arm64
libtiff5:arm64
libtimedate-perl
libtinfo5:arm64
libtinfo6:arm64
libtotem-plparser-common
libtotem-plparser18:arm64
libtracker-control-2.0-0:arm64
libtracker-sparql-2.0-0:arm64
libtry-tiny-perl
libtwolame0:arm64
libuchardet0:arm64
libudev1:arm64
libudisks2-0:arm64
libunistring2:arm64
libunwind8:arm64
libupower-glib3:arm64
liburi-perl
libusb-0.1-4:arm64
libusb-1.0-0:arm64
libusbmuxd4:arm64
libuuid1:arm64
libv4l-0:arm64
libv4lconvert0:arm64
libva-drm2:arm64
libva-x11-2:arm64
libva2:arm64
libvdpau1:arm64
libverbiste-0.1-0v5:arm64
libvidstab1.1:arm64
libvisual-0.4-0:arm64
libvo-aacenc0:arm64
libvo-amrwbenc0:arm64
libvorbis0a:arm64
libvorbisenc2:arm64
libvorbisfile3:arm64
libvpx5:arm64
libvte-2.91-0:arm64
libvte-2.91-common
libvulkan1:arm64
libwacom-common
libwacom2:arm64
libwavpack1:arm64
libwayland-client0:arm64
libwayland-cursor0:arm64
libwayland-egl1:arm64
libwayland-server0:arm64
libwbclient0:arm64
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:arm64
libwebp6:arm64
libwebpdemux2:arm64
libwebpmux3:arm64
libwebrtc-audio-processing1:arm64
libwildmidi2:arm64
libwlroots5:arm64
libwoff1:arm64
libwpe-1.0-1:arm64
libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1:arm64
libwrap0:arm64
libwww-perl
libwww-robotrules-perl
libx11-6:arm64
libx11-data
libx11-xcb1:arm64
libx264-155:arm64
libx265-165:arm64
libxapian30:arm64
libxapp1:arm64
libxau6:arm64
libxaw7:arm64
libxcb-composite0:arm64
libxcb-dri2-0:arm64
libxcb-dri3-0:arm64
libxcb-glx0:arm64
libxcb-icccm4:arm64
libxcb-present0:arm64
libxcb-randr0:arm64
libxcb-render0:arm64
libxcb-res0:arm64
libxcb-shape0:arm64
libxcb-shm0:arm64
libxcb-sync1:arm64
libxcb-util0:arm64
libxcb-xfixes0:arm64
libxcb-xkb1:arm64
libxcb1:arm64
libxcomposite1:arm64
libxcursor1:arm64
libxdamage1:arm64
libxdmcp6:arm64
libxext6:arm64
libxfixes3:arm64
libxfont2:arm64
libxft2:arm64
libxi6:arm64
libxinerama1:arm64
libxkbcommon-x11-0:arm64
libxkbcommon0:arm64
libxkbfile1:arm64
libxklavier16:arm64
libxml2:arm64
libxmlb1:arm64
libxmu6:arm64
libxmuu1:arm64
libxpm4:arm64
libxrandr2:arm64
libxrender1:arm64
libxshmfence1:arm64
libxslt1.1:arm64
libxt6:arm64
libxtables12:arm64
libxtst6:arm64
libxv1:arm64
libxvidcore4:arm64
libxxf86dga1:arm64
libxxf86vm1:arm64
libyaml-0-2:arm64
libyelp0:arm64
libytnef0:arm64
libzbar0:arm64
libzephyr4:arm64
libzmq5:arm64
libzstd1:arm64
libzvbi-common
libzvbi0:arm64
linux-base
linux-image-5.9.0-1-librem5
linux-image-librem5
locales
login
logrotate
lollypop
lsb-base
lsb-release
lsof
lua-bitop:arm64
lua-expat:arm64
lua-json
lua-lpeg:arm64
lua-socket:arm64
lvm2
man-db
mariadb-common
mate-desktop-common
mate-utils
mate-utils-common
mawk
mfcj880dwcupswrapper:i386
mfcj880dwlpr:i386
mime-support
mmc-utils
mobile-broadband-provider-info
modemmanager
mount
mtd-utils
multiarch-support
mutter
mutter-common
mysql-common
nano
nautilus
nautilus-data
ncurses-base
ncurses-bin
nemo
nemo-data
net-tools
netbase
network-manager
network-manager-gnome
ntpstat
obfs4proxy
openssh-client
openssh-server
openssh-sftp-server
openssl
p11-kit
p11-kit-modules:arm64
p7zip
p7zip-full
packagekit
parted
passwd
perl
perl-base
perl-modules-5.28
perl-openssl-defaults:arm64
phoc
phosh
pidgin-data
pinentry-curses
pinentry-gnome3
plymouth
plymouth-label
plymouth-theme-librem5
policykit-1
policykit-1-gnome
poppler-data
poppler-utils
prepaid-manager-applet
printer-driver-gutenprint
procps
psmisc
pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
pulseaudio-utils
pureos-archive-keyring
pureos-minimal
pureos-store
pureos-store-common
pureos-store-plugin-flatpak
purple-carbons
purple-lurch
purple-mm-sms
purple-xmpp-http-upload
python
python-dbus
python-gi
python-minimal
python-pkg-resources
python-setuptools
python-talloc:arm64
python2
python2-minimal
python2.7
python2.7-minimal
python3
python3-argon2
python3-bs4
python3-cairo:arm64
python3-certifi
python3-cffi-backend
python3-chardet
python3-construct
python3-cups
python3-cupshelpers
python3-dateutil
python3-dbus
python3-distro
python3-evdev
python3-future
python3-gi
python3-gi-cairo
python3-gst-1.0
python3-idna
python3-lib2to3
python3-lxml:arm64
python3-minimal
python3-netaddr
python3-pil:arm64
python3-pkg-resources
python3-pwquality
python3-pycryptodome
python3-pykeepass
python3-requests
python3-six
python3-soupsieve
python3-urllib3
python3.7
python3.7-minimal
qemu-utils
readline-common
rfkill
samba-libs:arm64
scdaemon
seahorse
sed
sensible-utils
shared-mime-info
sound-theme-freedesktop
sound-theme-librem5
speedtest-cli
squeekboard
ssl-cert
sudo
sunclock
sunclock-maps
syncevolution
syncevolution-common
syncevolution-libs
syncevolution-libs-gnome
system-config-printer
system-config-printer-common
systemd
systemd-sysv
sysvinit-utils
tar
tasksel
tasksel-data
tor
tracker
tree
ttf-bitstream-vera
tzdata
u-boot-tools
ucf
udev
udisks2
ufw
upower
usb-modeswitch
usb-modeswitch-data
usb.ids
usbutils
usbview
util-linux
verbiste
verbiste-gtk
vim-common
vim-tiny
wget
whatip
whiptail
wlr-randr
wpasupplicant
wys
x11-common
x11-utils
x11-xkb-utils
x11-xserver-utils
xapps-common
xdg-dbus-proxy
xdg-desktop-portal
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
xdg-user-dirs
xdg-utils
xkb-data
xserver-common
xwayland
xxd
yad
yelp
yelp-xsl
zenity
zenity-common
zlib1g:arm64
Here's the list from the way I suggested, which appears to be limited to the manually installed applications (?):
bluetooth-sendto
com.github.maoschanz.drawing
evolution-calendar
firefox-esr
gconf-editor
gcr-prompter
gcr-viewer
geary-autostart
geoclue-demo-agent
geoclue-where-am-i
gnome-applications-panel
gnome-background-panel
gnome-bluetooth-panel
gnome-color-panel
gnome-control-center
gnome-datetime-panel
gnome-default-apps-panel
gnome-disk-image-mounter
gnome-disk-image-writer
gnome-display-panel
gnome-info-overview-panel
gnome-initial-setup
gnome-keyboard-panel
gnome-mouse-panel
gnome-network-panel
gnome-notifications-panel
gnome-online-accounts-panel
gnome-power-panel
gnome-printers-panel
gnome-privacy-panel
gnome-region-panel
gnome-removable-media-panel
gnome-search-panel
gnome-sharing-panel
gnome-shell-extension-prefs
gnome-sound-panel
gnome-thunderbolt-panel
gnome-universal-access-panel
gnome-user-accounts-panel
gnome-wacom-panel
gnome-wifi-panel
gnome-wwan-panel
gnubik
gufw
l5-contacts-importer
l5-scale-the-screen
l5-screenshot
mate-dictionary
mate-disk-usage-analyzer
mate-screenshot
mate-search-tool
mate-system-log
mimeinfo.cache
mutter
nautilus-autorun-software
nemo-autorun-software
nemo-autostart
nemo
nm-applet
nm-connection-editor
org.gabmus.whatip
org.gnome.Calculator
org.gnome.Chess
org.gnome.clocks
org.gnome.Contacts
org.gnome.Dictionary
org.gnome.DiskUtility
org.gnome.Epiphany
org.gnome.Evince
org.gnome.Evince-previewer
org.gnome.Evolution-alarm-notify
org.gnome.FileRoller
org.gnome.Geary
org.gnome.gedit
org.gnome.gThumb
org.gnome.gThumb.Import
org.gnome.Lollypop
org.gnome.Nautilus
org.gnome.PasswordSafe
org.gnome.PrepaidManager
org.gnome.Shell
org.gnome.Shell.PortalHelper
org.gnome.SoundRecorder
org.gnome.Terminal
org.gnome.tweaks
org.gnome.Usage
org.gnome.Weather
org.gnome.zbrown.KingsCross
pureos-store-local-file
python2.7
python3.7
seahorse
sm.puri.Calls
sm.puri.Chatty
sm.puri.OSK0
sm.puri.Phosh
sm.puri.Store
sm.puri.webapps.sm.puri.news
sol
sunclock
system-config-printer
usbview
verbiste
vim
x-cinnamon-mimeapps.list
xdg
yad-icon-browser
yelp
Yes with my method you get every apt package (including libraries) installed on the system, instead of just packages that happen to have a desktop entry. You can then pipe that output into apt on the command line (as I document in my post) and apt will reinstall all the packages in that list on the system that aren’t installed yet.
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Excellent. Very convenient. Now I have to learn it. 
I have started trying to Flatpaks with the --user flag wherever possible and using separate root and home partitions. This way, most of my apps are backed up just by backing up my home partition.
Which is a better choice for Deja Dup: flatpak or amber?
Good thing, but wouldn’t that also include packages which are currently just installed as a dependency? So removing a program I previously installed would no longer auto-remove all of it’s dependencies that apart from that program I would not need?
If you update the list daily (like I do in my cron job) or only create the list in preparation for a restore, it would only list the currently-installed packages. Apt has mechanisms to automatically removed unused libraries that show up when you install then remove something:
sudo apt autoremove
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I think the blog post show cases how the back up can work.
I think that the video was very good made. I would recommend that the blog posts mentions that one should think of different use cases on backups. (Not having the blog post handle all these but having the reader know that he will spend some time thinking on what his use cases are)
E.g. saving on the SD card helps against the threat of misconfiguring or deleting something when using the phone, but is for obvious reason not helping when the phone is lost, destroyed or stolen. So saving only on the sd card violates the 3 2 1 rule
Thanks for the quick response, I think we misunderstood. Maybe because the proposed way is not as I think.
So let’s say I install package A which needs B and C. B and C are also installed when I install A. If I now uninstall A, B and C will be auto-removed as you say.
Let’s say I have A installed and backup with your described method, will B and C be listed in the back up list? (That’s what I understood) If they are and there is the backup case and I install all apps in the list, B and C are installed without dependency. So if I now remove A, B and C will not be auto-removed as they are not installed because of the depenceny.
The version that’s in the PureOS store by default works well enough for me, it’s adaptive, etc.
Apt is aware of the dependencies between packages whether they are installed for the first time when you install another package, or whether you installed them beforehand. When you remove a package, apt will behave the same way regardless, which typically means that it leaves dependencies behind but prompts you to run apt autoremove to clean them up.
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Let’s do an example.
sudo apt install kodi
-> Installs kodi and additionally kodi-bin kodi-data kodi-repository-kodi kodi-visualization-spectrum kodi-x11 libjs-iscroll python-olefile python-pil python-pycryptodome
Now I assume that the backup will save all installed packages - I by this understand that all additionally packages are also installed so e.g.
sudo apt install kodi-bin
-> sets kodi-bin as manually installed
sudo apt remove kodi
-> removes kodi and all packages but not kodi-bin!
So either your method does not list all installed packages (including dependencies) which would be the good case or all dependencies will in a backup case also be installed without dependencies.
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My method lists all installed packages, so on a restore you can restore all of the packages you had installed previously. If you want to remove unused dependencies, I’d consider that out of scope of a backup/restore (which is trying to restore the state of a machine to the backed-up state), and is something you’d handle before and/or after the backup/restore with sudo apt autoremove, not something the backup/restore should account for.
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They’re both in the store (for me), but I imagine you’re referring to the non-flatpak? I’ll try that one.
Yes I haven’t added any external flatpak repositories to my phone. I try to just test and use what’s in amber PureOS.
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deja-dup is just the GUI front-end for the CLI duplicity program right ?
some people say that it’s not recommended to use it for large back-ups … what does ‘large’ mean in this context ?
for me it would be really hard to reach more than 1 TB of AV material since 99% is cruft that will be discarded sooner rather than later 
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