What happened to Librem 15?

For me, the screen resolution is the biggest missing feature. I’m not sure if there was an option for it with the Librem 15, but I’d like a touchscreen. I think 14 inches is a good size for the screen, and while 1080p is fine for most people, I’d prefer to pay more for higher resolution on a screen I look at a lot.

Screen resolution is really all that’s held me back from ordering so far (1440p / 2K) is probably better at 14" than full 4k though

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I was wondering the same thing. I just received my Librem 15 a couple weeks ago. So far so good, I was going to order some more for my company, nada, just refurbished Lib 15s left…I was also thinking of ordering a server too, now, not so sure. I ordered a Librem 5 phone as well, still waiting for that. I am new to Purism and grateful that these products even exist,therefore I became a customer. I ordered the Lib 15 because I wanted a desktop replacement, that is light, powerful and secure, it fits that ticket for me. My other laptop is a custom Dell Precision Workstation 17" with 4 SSDs, that can run anything I throw at it in 3D CAD, but it is like carrying a slab of concrete around. My Lib 15 can hold its own as well with 32 gigs of Ram and the ProSSD screams. I love this freakin thing! Sad to see it gone.

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Since this has been pointed out, and for future, could it be possible to have a “previous products” list or similar that has at least the technical info available? It always bugs me when product info disappears when they are stopped selling - even though the product it self doesn’t vanish from users or second (or third) hand listings. Not a high priority thing, but still.


That was the goal of https://wiki.puri.sm – to handle hardware documentation like that. Like basically all wikis (and all situations where there is more than one place you can put information) it needs some attention and to be brought up to date.

Note that https://docs.puri.sm has become a similar place for the Librem 5 and Librem Key, and with some placeholders for the 13 and 15. It might make sense to combine the previous wiki with that, but nothing has been decided along those lines.

  • Big screen is a must for a desktop replacement. I don’t care how heavy it is and how short the battery life is (as long as it allows to move it around). I don’t want to buy a desktop with a monitor and all its wires. 17.0" with UHD would be best.
  • More ports, much more different ports.
  • Better cooling due to its size I guess, so should survive high load for a long time a be quieter (the latter wasn’t really true for Librem 15 AFAIK).

Wasn’t present in Librem 15, but I would really love the following:

  • More separate hardware keys (volume, brightness, custom keys).

  • Better camera and microphone would be really helpful.

  • What about three or four M.2 ports for SSDs? This would tremendously help quick automatic backups, multibooting, RAID.

  • Independent 3.5 mm port for a microphone. Update: Not necessary, see below.

  • Wasn’t present in Librem 15, but SD card slot, where the card is fully inside the device for more safety.

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Should both be true even more for the L14 (much better CPU).
I have a refurbished L15 btw. You wouldn’t see it, even if you know it.
(I’m also pretty sure the SSD will be a new one, especially if you choose a bigger one)

Why does that matter to you? I’m curious.

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The referbs looked like a screaming deal, they had some 14" referbs when I bought mine, no L15s that I can remember. I got mine at $300 off, it seemed as though they wanted to clear them out. Maybe a little blurb about the fact they were discontinuing the L15 model would have been nice, just sayin…The L14 would be a deal breaker at this point. For me, running CAD, screen size matters, a L17 would probably result in an upgrade. One can only hope…

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for me a 4k panel should ALSO have HDR (10bit color depth) capability … no matter what size it is


One can use an external microphone, many people already have one (including me).

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Kyle, thanks for asking!
After owning the L15 v4 I would never ever again want to miss the UltraHD screen. I love it.
This is definitely, what makes me hesitate.
I’d rather have a used L15 v4 wiht UltraHD and “only” 32 GB RAM, than a L14 with 64 GB RAM just because of the screen and that is though I’m using Qubes!

I would order immediately.

Keyboard is completely fine with me.
Having an overall larger notebook is what I generally prefere, yes, for I like the style.


@UNIXfanatic , thanks for starting this!
:+1: :heartbeat:

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For me: The larger screen and the UHD 3840 × 2160 resolution.

If only the L14 would have that, I’d order immediately! :+1: :ok_hand: :heartbeat:

I actually want the Librem 11 to return! :slightly_smiling_face:
I place great value on something small and light, for traveling.
(Of course, now I can just use the L5.)


You can easily get a cheap USB audio interface in a thumb drive form factor for this if you need it. Or you can get a headset with an integrated microphone. Or you could get a quality microphone and an audio interface like the Focusrite Scarlett Solo.

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This is less secure in case of Qubes, since all USB devices on the same USB hub are not isolated, while the standard microphone is fully independent from them.

Upd: By the way, @Kyle_Rankin another requested feature for Librem 16/17:

  • More independent USB hubs.
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If you’re worried about what software may be accessing an external peripheral, just unplug it.

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What if I’m worried that malicious USB devices on the same hub will record my voice while I’m speaking with someone? Sometimes you need to use those devices simultaneously, too.



You can imagine an extreme edge case threat model for anything. That doesn’t mean it has any practical relevance. The vast majority of people using an unbalanced microphone with a laptop are using a headset or earbuds with an integrated microphone, thus most devices today have a single TRRS jack. It would be a waste of resources to add a separate jack for the microphone.

A nice high resolution screen, on the other hand, has much more practical relevance than an extreme edge case threat model.