When is Crimson coming?

[carlosgonz]

Looks like Gnu Crimson will NOT before Christmas.

[gondolyr]

As the October post states, it’s a marathon, not a sprint. I think rushing a release can result in a very poor impression if it is not done well. I’ve been sated by the backports made to Byzantium, though the advances in Phosh alone have me excited for Crimson and beyond.

Debian 13 is soon to be released in 2025 so it will probably be a while before PureOS GA is based on it.

[galilley]

You can try new Phosh right now

[fch]

Any updates of upgrading from pureOS 11 to 12? Changing sources.list file like on debian will break my OS?

[FranklyFlawless]

Upgrading from Crimson to Dawn is unsupported.

[fch]

So reflash is the way? How buggy is Crimson to be a daily driver? I am thinking about just flashing mobian as I like the experience on my pinephone, not sure if everything works in the L5, but maybe should give it a try.

[pak]

Mobian trixie works fine on L5, with similar battery life limitation.

[FranklyFlawless]

See my topic about Crimson on the Librem 5:

Crimson Experience

I recently installed Crimson on my Librem 5 USA, and I have noticed many changes. Here is a list of them, along with photos: WPA3 works. The Settings app is nearly fully adaptive (excluding Displays, File History and Trash, Time Zone, and potentially others). Sometimes the adaptation is not triggered, so a workaround is to drag Quick Settings slightly down to redraw the screen. In Appearance, there is now a Dark style/theme. In Power, there are now Power Modes (Balanced and Power Saver). In A…

See also:

Some old , same old. Phone on Fritz Again

I do not share any issues with @Sharon on either Byzantium or Crimson, but my use cases dramatically differ from them. Most of the time, I use Firefox ESR, Secrets, Lollypop, and Shortwave, while fetching SMS every 8-48 hours when appropriate, otherwise I am constantly in Lockdown Mode. I prefer asynchronous communication, so I never initiate or respond to calls on the Librem 5, nor do I use Bluetooth. While Crimson might be acceptable for me, I cannot provide any guarantee whether it will be ap…

[Ick]

@FranklyFlawless: you’re still on Crimson unstable, right? Does your phone freeze from time to time?

[FranklyFlawless]

Only occasionally on the lock screen:

@FranklyFlawless

@escheberry

Does anyone have intermittent frozen screen issue?

No, not on Byzantium or later. Sometimes the PureOS lockscreen on the Librem 5 becomes unresponsive, although it is easily fixed by locking and unlocking the display.

@FranklyFlawless

@muon

Occasional annoying UI lock-ups/freezes, sometimes momentary but other times it doesn’t resolve.

I do not experience similar issues on Byzantium and later.

[muon]

To update my quote linked above… I actually haven’t seen any freeze ups for a while now. Granted I haven’t had the phone on heavy “random” use, just using one chat application almost daily for the most part. So I dunno if it went away, or it’s only when doing certain things. Or maybe it’s heat related.

Also, the heat issue is dead thanks to the insulated 3d printed case I’m using now. (And yes I will be sharing how to reproduce it after I get to a more final form.)

[Ick]

On Byzantium everything is fine (not even those where I had to lock/unlock display), but on Mobian nightly I experience lots of freezes, that’s why I asked about Crimson. I do not care much about Mobian, because it’s a test system, but Crimson should be not worse than Byzantium - so I asked.

[galilley]

Could you compare the memory consumption between Byzantium and Mobian? Are you using the same parameters for ZRAM/SWAP?

I recently noticed that my backports take much more memory than before due to lot of preloaded stuff (gnome-calls, chatty, evolution, etc)…

[Ick]

~300MB difference. ~200MB by software center and ~100MB by system. Other things do not matter much. I do not know what parameters I use - both on default.

However, Phosh on Byzantium has a memory leak, so it fills the memory over time when switching between landscape and portrait view. I did not realize it on Mobian. The numbers above are on fresh start.