Let's crowdfund some development to get PureOS Crimson ready for L5!

Assuming that one reason why Purism did not say anything about donations towards Crimson for L5 is that the StartEngine campaign was ongoing and Purism wanted all money to go into that. Now that the StartEngine campaign is over, maybe something could happen now?

To summarize the situation again: software development to get Crimson ready for L5 is desperately needed, but Purism has halted development. There has been zero development over the last several months, at least no progress seen at the https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/OS-issues/-/issues/346 gitlab issue. At the same time there are people (myself included) who want to donate money specifically towards getting that done. My discussions with some of the developers lead me to believe that Purism handling the money is much better than trying something independently “behind Purism’s back”. It would be great if Purism would say “yes, we will take your money and use that to fund development of Crimson for L5, here is how to donate, here is how we will report progress”.

Hoping for an answer from @JCS or @francois-techene who mentioned earlier the possibility of a “fund PureOS” donation campaign.

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As briefly mentioned in the Sitemap thread, there is a WooCommerce listing for donating to PureOS development and support, but it does not seem to be functioning at the moment:

PureOS Development and Support – Purism

Odds are that this is what they were referring to, but I still have a backup plan if it fails to materialize by May 6th.

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At this current point in time, I do not think the backup plan will need to be utilized, considering the WooCommerce listing above has direct correlation with what @JCS was stating earlier:

That being said, I already did quite a bit of research into crowdfunding open-source development, although they tend to be focused on bug bounties. If progress from Purism noticeably ceases, then I will reconsider and suggest the backup plan based on its demand.

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I think that any pooling of money for software development should be done outside of Purism. Allowing Purism to manage the money hasn’t always worked out well. If an outside party manages the money, then the money can be distributed to the most worthy projects. For example, if things happen inside of Purism that too many people disagree with, then the money could start flowing in to projects that Purism does not benefit from. Maybe something specific to the Pine Phone could be funded. But then when Purism gets on-board with what the community really wants, the money could then be directed in to projects that directly benefit Purism.

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better donate the money to Mobian and/or postmarketos. I fear that we do not see Crimson this year…

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you fear a lot

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Call it “experience” and “realism” :wink:

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Hey foks,
Not to hijack onto this post but—you can already support many FLOSS projects that are on the Librem 5! You can always show your support for them.

I usually make small donations to many of the projects I utilize as a show of support.

If you do want to support developers directly. As others have pointed out, you can find many of these listed folks on LiberaPay.

Additionally, you can always sign up to start donating to organizations/people if in the future they join Liberapay:

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Already joined:

https://liberapay.com/dorotac.eu/

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Don’t worry too much about Crimson. Things are slowly moving again.

also say hi to new the Landing: Dawn.

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You came too late to have enough “experience” with Purism. :wink: People that follow Purisms activities since pre-Corona-time have a lot more and know better how things are going on. And what’s the point in donating to Mobian or PostmarketOS when they don’t work much on things like firmware or drivers? I mean, you can donate them - nothing wrong about it - but I don’t think you will be happy with the current state, too.

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Late to the party, and haven’t read all the comments, so this might be redundant:

Having just tried for an hour to send a picture to my girlfriend and having to force reboot the phone 3 times, and still not succeeding, I have to say:

I don’t care that much about new features or a new version of PureOS, I want stability and a set of reliably working basic features. When that’s in place, then we can talk about new features and more niche security features. I just want to be able to reliably make a phone call…

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That does not sound normal. If it is MMS, have you set it up correctly? This differ from carrier to carrier

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I follow it also from the beginning :wink: From the moment they revealed their plans to build up an smartphone.

But ATM it looks not very good in the perspective of an future for the L5 and all the development Purism promised us.

I think most devs were laid off and the L5 may be an “unloved child” for the things happening inside Purism

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My experiences differ not much from Yours…things on the L5 work not really reliable. Modem crashes are happening frequently and the phone sucks the battery faster empty as I can look for this

Today made 2 phone calls and nothing more and energy is on 29% after 10 hours up.

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You do not use suspend then. This was the time I had at beginning, too (13-14h without suspend). When Purism started developing it was around 6 hours in best case. I think with 18h (and 2 phone calls) it’s quiet usable, even if far from being optimal.

At the moment I don’t fear anything about Librem 5s future since we always can move on to Mobian (and that was the real promise made by Purism: no need to have them on board to have an up to date OS). PureOS and updating to Crimson is just the easier way and until there is no clear signal that they totally stopped development, it’s worse it to look forwards to Crimson. But that’s just my opinion.

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Of course I use suspend

And since some days here runs as a test Postmarket-OS as a test

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Then it sounds like your battery gets old. I will test battery on-time again this week.

PS: Don’t forget to give some feedback to postmarketOS after some testing. I would like to know how it’s doing in the current stage.

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who says Mobian doesn’t work on firmware or drivers too :wink:

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I don’t say it. Read again. :wink:

they don’t work much on things

Not everything from Purism is upstream right now, as far as I know. That’s my main concern. I think at some point in future it doesn’t matter anymore.

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