Kudos to jameshjacksonjr highlighting it on Matrix.
Librem 5 - Heat Problem? (As seen in the CCC presentation)
… just like that…? Hmm… regarding that old poll: it seems L5 may beat Brexit
Is this something new? The shipping is scheduled already for Q3
Schedule is not verification nor exact date (mid September or end? [edit: nothing says the news won’t be “Q4”?]). Besides, I’ve had stuff come via post that’s taken about 1,5months to arrive (probably not the same with L5, though), so still not entirely convinced I’d be here before Brexit
Don’t want to be too off topic - but compared to Brexit Purism does not give us one false promise after another
You all should be more patient and expect more the worst case. If they say Q3 think of the last day in Q3. If they say at least these specs, think of the exact specs and nothing more. I was fine with the previous specs and I was happy about more mega pixels in the cameras. If they will release Info about shipping two days before end of Q3 I will be happy. It’s a lot easier to make me happy this way
Pessimist doesn’t get disappointed…?
Oh I believe it will likely be down to the wire in terms of shipping start in Q3, however I do think the news that there will be a schedule posted within the next week from what it sounds like should hopefully quell any negativity or doubts, at least until it gets posted which is why I posted.
I’d imagine it’s something like first wave, second wave, etc. If nothing else it’ll narrow it down from a 3 month window
If this is an actual update , it is most likely specific shipping dates for the first wave of L5 s I imagine. I really hope they got that overheating issue resolved because I dont see that as a minor problem the device should be shipped with .
I couldnt imagine Purism would ship with a device that overheats and throttles to 1% indicating a serious thermal overload. I definitely dont want to find out I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 7-esque grenade in my pocket.
So Im cautiously optimistic this was resolved or atleast has been mitigated to a level that will be completely resolved in OTA updates.
No. Shipping will start in Q3. That’s all we know.
I expect the schedule to tell us how they orchestrate it.
If they ship 200 per day, which is a lot for a small company, it takes ten weeks to ship 10k units.
Maybe the schedule also has differences for regions, bundles, modem choice, or software maturity. We’ll see.
This is great news. No way they would ship without overheating unresolved.
At that pace (200 a day) I guess I would be getting it in that third month. Assuming that most of the orders (2/3) were placed byv the end of 2018.
Possibly not more than 5000. See this full thread for details:
In that case, it would be around 5 weeks for me (Jan 2. order) Much better!
Schedule now published, FAQ will be updated as well according to Purism Matrix:
This is extremely disappointing.
So, by March I might get the proper hardware?? I’m about to cancel my pre-order.
From the article:
With the initial batch of phones at the end of September and early October, the hardware quality is said to be “Individually milled case, loose fit, varying alignment, unfinished switch caps. (Hand crafted)”
The second batch will bring a “tighter fit, improved alignment” for manufacturing and that will begin at the end of October through the end of November. That will also iterate the software stack for this phone. With their batch in December is when all of the switches will be properly capped as well as bringing better power management and other software improvements.
From January through March will be their next batch with various hardware refinements, a graphical PureOS store, and other improvements. In Q2’2020 is when there will be a molded case and long-term support software support, or rather the phone should be in good standing for early adopters.
All those who said that this phone won’t be ready by Q3 were right. What I didn’t see happen is shipping a quarter baked device.
At least wait for the FAQ before cancelling, so you have a better idea of your options
Honestly I’d LOVE to have part of my phone hand-crafted!! One of the very first Librem phones! With more personality. The later ones will be cool too (as I ordered in March 2019). But I wish I was in the first batch!
If you don’t cancel, and want to trade a hand-crafted one for a more polished one in a few months, let me know. We can make a trade
Yeah, that’s what I’ve also thought about: hand-made device for the same price, that’s a gotcha. Wanna this. Though I still consider this as “unfinished” for such device as a smartphone (but don’t fear this! ).
That’s why I said “about to cancel” I’m just pissed , because this whole Q3 wasn’t an honest estimate. This is not a finished product. Period.
They could have said anything, but stuck w Q3. They should immediately change that on the sales page as well. Or word it differently. “SHIPPING Q3 for early adopters & original backers Phone available April 1, 2020.”
I just find it disingenuous & unprofessional. That’s all.
This first batch coming with all potential hardware flaws, shouldn’t be even for sale. It looks more like a pre production model that needs time for testing - Like most OEMs do.
I love the idea of “handcrafted” too. But, the one that won’t cause potential headaches.
I’ll let you know